I just got this from Dean Reyburn: "HP makes good units, I'd recommend Windows 7, 32 bit, atom cpu and SSD (solid state drive) hard drive are the best choice. You will need to upgrade to our latest RCT version 5 for Windows to run on Windows Vista, Windows 7 or most of the newer netbooks. The makers have changed the sound cards and older RCT versions won't calibrate properly on the newer machines. For upgrade pricing see:" David Ilvedson, RPT Pacifica, CA 94044 ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "William Truitt" <surfdog at metrocast.net> To: pianotech at ptg.org Received: 5/4/2010 4:20:21 PM Subject: Re: [pianotech] Netbooks and tuning software >There are still many Minis available with XP Home installed. I'd like to >put programs like PScale on the mini so that I can enter data directly into >it in the shop, and hopefully using a microphone and Dragon Speaking >Naturally to enter my teardown info into an Excel Spreadsheet. I'm running >MS Office 2003 on my 5 year old shop computer with has only 480 MB Ram. >Doesn't load that fast, but it runs. So I am guessing it would run as well >on the mini with 1 GB of RAM. But, as far as the shop is concerned, a >laptop would do as well also. >Will >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf >Of hgreeley >Sent: Tuesday, May 04, 2010 6:15 PM >To: pianotech at ptg.org >Subject: Re: [pianotech] Netbooks and tuning software >Hi, Will, >William Truitt wrote: >> So TuneLab runs on Windows 7? I have been assuming that none of the >> tuning programs would run on Windows 7, unless they had been ported to >> the new OS by the developers. I thought you would need to have Windows >> 7 Professional, which has a windows XP emulator that would allow you to >> run your old XP programs. But Windows 7 Professional won't run on a >> mini, because they have only 1 Gb of RAM. So fill me in. >While I can't speak to the TuneLab (or other ETD) programs, I can >suggest that YMMV greatly depending on what netbook you might get. Some >will run Win7 in all versions; some appear to be more limited. For what >I need (mostly non-piano-related), the OS has to be Win7 "Ultimate". So >far, in admittedly limited (but application-heavy) testing, the WinXP >"emulation" doesn't cut it...again, YMMV...much depends on the software >you're trying to run; and, if someone is having good luck with an ETD >program on one of these...Bravo!! >So far for me, the biggest disappointment/limitation has been processors >and RAM. If you wind up stuck with an "Atom" processor, having huge >amounts of RAM (a whole 2GB, at best, so far) isn't going to do you very >much good. No matter how fast things run in the subsystems, once they >hit the CPU buss, they'll just get stacked up while the poor things >grinds away. If I had not needed something on exceptionally short >notice, I would not have one, let alone two. I think we're still about >a generation away for these things to be realistically useful for much >more than web-based email and some very elementary applications. >> Your other comments speak to the other reasons why I am interested in >> the possibility of using a mini. >While everyone's needs are different, and, I certainly wouldn't get rid >of a decent laptop...let alone a full workstation...to have a netbook, >as long as I remember the limitations of the device and don't ask it to >do things for which it's not designed, I have found them to be >exceptionally helpful and use. I have two: an Acer and an HP...Toshibas >also look pretty good. Neither of the two I have, as the car salesfolks >used to say, have power steering or brakes...but, they generally are a >useful tool. >Hope this is of some use. >Best regards. >Horace >> >> >> >> Will Truitt >> >> >> >> *From:* pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Andy Murphy >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 10:22 AM >> *To:* pianotech at ptg.org >> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] Netbooks and tuning software >> >> >> >> I've been using TuneLab on HP mini (windows 7) most of this year. I >> like the easy to see / position screen, opt'd for the six cell battery >> which gives me plenty for a day of tunings plus nice keyboard for notes, >> email, some browsing at hotspots during the day, fits nice and lightly >> in my tuning bag. Always somewhere on the grand harp for it to sit, or >> on top of the pin-block with uprights. I use and move a small mic >> around for optimal pickup. >> >> >> >> Andy Murphy >> >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> *From:* pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] *On >> Behalf Of *Phil Ryan >> *Sent:* Tuesday, May 04, 2010 3:56 AM >> *To:* pianotech at ptg.org >> *Subject:* Re: [pianotech] Netbooks and tuning software >> >> >> >> I'll second what Rick has been saying about the iphone with Tunelab. >> I've been using it for several months now and find it to be a great >> device- very accurate, small, light weight. With a rubberized case, i >> don't need a stand, I just lay it on the harp somewhere, against the >> bars, dampers, tuning pins etc, move it around to follow you. Charge it >> in between jobs in the car if needed. Try it, you'll like it. >> >> Phil Ryan >> >> >> On 5/4/2010 6:14 AM, Richard Ucci wrote: >> >> What can I say, the tunings sound great. Whitney spinets to concert >> grands. I only use them to set the temperment, aural from there. >> >> I tune for some very picky clients and top commercial acts, so far so >good. >> >> Rick Ucci/ Ucci Piano >> >> >> On May 4, 2010, at 1:34 AM, Joe DeFazio <defaziomusic at verizon.net >> <mailto:defaziomusic at verizon.net>> wrote: >> >> *From: *Richard Ucci <richarducci at comcast.net >> <mailto:richarducci at comcast.net>> >> >> *Date: *May 3, 2010 6:31:24 PM EDT >> >> >> >> I use spurlocks cradle for the phone, and am using peterson >> strobosoft ap. >> Also cleartune ap on occasion. >> >> >> >> Uhhhhh, >> >> >> >> Peterson Strobosoft for iPhone doesn't include any stretch or >> inharmonicity parameters, as far as I can tell. >> >> >> >> Cleartune includes only one generic "guitar stretch" style. >> >> >> >> How are you generating useable piano tunings with either of these >> apps? I can't imagine that a temperament set with a 2:1 frequency >> ratio octave (440-220), which is even *narrower* than the 2:1 >> partial-matched octave on *any* piano (which is itself already much >> too narrow for a temperament octave), could be useable in creating >> an acceptable tuning. Imagine those cramped little fifths. And, >> the problem would get considerably worse as you move out from the >> temperament region. >> >> >> >> Don't get me wrong, those programs have their uses in assisting >> harmonic instruments players (flute, violin.) to play in tune, but >> they are not designed for piano tuning, as far as I can tell. My >> ears are hurting just thinking about it. It makes me think of the >> bad old days of strobe tuning before Al Sanderson came along. >> >> >> >> I don't mean to be harsh; if I'm missing something, please point it >> out. A truly useful tuning tool that costs $10 or less would >> certainly pique my interest. Unfortunately, only mutes and >> temperament strips and a few other odds and ends typically fit into >> that category.... >> >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> >> >> Joe DeFazio >> >> Pittsburgh >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> I don't mind what Congress does, as long as they don't do it in the >streets and frighten the horses. Victor Hugo >>
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