[pianotech] 1925 Wurlitzer Value

John Ross jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca
Fri Mar 19 12:59:33 MDT 2010


12c is a negligible amount.
If they were going to break, they would have broken, even the amount  
you did raise them.
I would have taken it up the full amount, to A440.
John Ross,
Windsor, Nova Scotia
On 19-Mar-10, at 2:04 PM, Rob McCall wrote:

> Sorry for the lack of information, guys (and gals)...  I was up late  
> as I had just finished playing piano for a "Cats" production at a  
> nearby HS for the 9th time in the last 8 days!  After tonight and  
> tomorrow's last two shows, life will get back to normal, whatever  
> that is...  :-)
>
> First of all, I tuned it flat for two reasons.  For starters, the  
> client wanted to spend as little as possible to get it sounding and  
> looking nice. Given the condition of the strings, in all their  
> gunmetal grey glory, I feared some strings might break if I brought  
> it right up to A440.  That adds a cost that she didn't want to  
> spend, and I felt it might make it more difficult for her to sell  
> the piano if several strings were all shiny and new while others  
> weren't. I know some potential buyer would ask about them and then  
> worry if they're all going to break. Second, by attempting to  
> stabilize it at a lower pitch I was avoiding the pitch raise, as  
> well.  And no, I didn't charge her half, in fact I didn't charge her  
> for the pitch raise at all, just for the tuning.
>
> All the keys play equally and the action probably needs some  
> regulation, but overall it plays very much as I would expect, in my  
> experience of having played lots of pianos in the last 40+ years.  I  
> didn't pull the action this time, but I will be doing that next week  
> during the deep cleaning that she wanted, which, when she realized I  
> wasn't charging her for the pitch raise, she seemed a lot more  
> trusting of me and invited me back to do the cleaning.  ;-) As I  
> learned just in the last few days, you can make just as much with a  
> vacuum as you can with a tuning hammer.  :-)
>
> However, from what I was able to view, the hammers were actually in  
> very good shape. There was very little "wear" pattern in the strike  
> point of the hammers, and the hammer line at rest was nearly a  
> straight line and within an appropriate blow distance. A few samples  
> of let-off and drop appeared very close to where I would want them  
> to be. Damper felt condition was very good, too.
>
> Tuning pin torque, although not measured with a torque wrench, was  
> well within what I would expect.  They moved precisely with a light- 
> moderate effort and they stayed where I put them. Maybe 2-3 total  
> out of the entire group felt a little too easy and might benefit  
> from some C/A work. All in all, I really enjoyed the feeling that  
> the tuning pins had.  I realize that it's subjective, but in my  
> limited experience, the tuning pins felt pretty close to where I  
> would want them to be.  The only drawback is that the beckets didn't  
> all line up...  :-)
>
> So for me, the main problems are the strings and the dirt (oh, and  
> the lyre repair).  The case is in great shape, the action appears to  
> be fully functional and within very playable tolerances. Given the  
> condition of the piano and the budget of a single mom with 4 kids,  
> my choice was the lower pitch and to recommend a really good  
> cleaning, evening if it is only eye-candy for the unsuspecting.  :-)
>
> Regards,
>
> Rob McCall
>
> McCall Piano Service, LLC
> www.mccallpiano.com
> Murrieta, CA
> 951-698-1875
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2010, at 07:19 , Mike Spalding wrote:
>
>> Paul and Terry and Rob,
>>
>> Rob gave no information whatsoever about pin torque (although it  
>> "tuned nicely") or the condition of the action.  If one assumes the  
>> worst, then Terry's assessment is right on.  If one assumes the  
>> best, then Paul's is correct.  I would point out that in my limited  
>> experience, there are a large number of piano owners and  
>> "rebuilders" for whom external appearance is the main priority.   
>> Tell me you've never seen an attractively refinished small grand  
>> with freshly filed hammers, otherwise all original action parts  
>> badly worn, sometimes regulated and sometimes not.  Anyway, Rob, to  
>> help you with a valuation we really need to know more about the  
>> instrument (as opposed to case cosmetics).
>



More information about the pianotech mailing list

This PTG archive page provided courtesy of Moy Piano Service, LLC