[pianotech] Was: TuneLab as an IPhone App

[Rex Roseman]

David

I agree with what you are saying. Part of my getting the ETD was to test and
improve my aural tuning. It has been a real eye opener when comparing what I
hear to what is really happening.

My current situation, though is that I am still in the learning curve with
the ETD program itself and so have to be sure that I am using TuneLab
correctly. It's not so much that I don't trust it to do what it's supposed
to do as I don't yet trust that I have used it correctly to get the results
that it can give.

As my ex-computer programmer brother in law used to say, "PICNIC", Problem
In Chair, Not In Computer.

Rex Roseman


-----Original Message-----
From: David Ilvedson [mailto:ilvey at sbcglobal.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 8:10 PM
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Was: TuneLab as an IPhone App

>Still do the final pass aurally because I
>am not sure that I know enough about what I am doing with the ETD to trust
>things are dead on,

You can be sure that with any of the good ETD's...SAT, CyberTuner,
Verituner, TuneLab, you are going to be very close to where you want to be.
I trust my SAT III but verify with aural checks, but I don't spend an
inordinate time on that aspect.   I'm listening for things changing...

I've dropped the egomaniac..."nothing can match my ear" mentality.   Why?
Because when I started using a ETD it was a humbling experience.   SOLID
UNISONS RULE...I do tune one hell of a unison... '-]

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Rex Roseman" <rosemanpiano at gmail.com>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Received: 3/16/2010 3:16:15 PM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Was: TuneLab as an IPhone App


>Jim

> 

>I just took the plunge and got TuneLab Pocket for a HTC Touch Pro phone.
>After 30 years of aural tuning, this has been one of the best tool
>investments that I have ever made. I would suggest checking out how the
>different ETD's work and see which you would be most comfortable with.
>TuneLab happened to be the one that worked the way that I think. It is a
>very visual program with its flexibility right out in front. Being able to
>put it on a phone was also a big plus. There are still a lot of things that
>I need to learn about it, but I have gone to it exclusively for pitch
>adjustments and been very pleased. Still do the final pass aurally because
I
>am not sure that I know enough about what I am doing with the ETD to trust
>things are dead on, but it is much more enjoyable to rough in visually and
>fine tune aurally. That's been by experience the last couple months.

> 

>Rex Roseman

> 

>-----Original Message-----
>From: James Johnson [mailto:jhjpiano at sbcglobal.net] 
>Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 12:22 AM
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Subject: [pianotech] Was: TuneLab as an IPhone App

> 

>I've read all of the thread to this point, but no one has mentioned if the
>IPhone App is a valid tool for a serious tuner.  After 42 years of aural
>tuning, I'm finding it more and more difficult to tune when there is
>background noise present.  I'm finally getting ready to take the plunge and
>buy an ETD of some sort.  Is it workable to have your ETD and your phone be
>the same instrument?  What is the easiest and best one for an aural tuner
to
>learn?  Can an old dog really learn new tricks?  

>Jim Johnson