[pianotech] Well Tempered tunings

Terry Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Thu Mar 11 22:11:00 MST 2010


Ummmmm, Dean, the Coleman temps ARE in there!!!

Terry Farrell

On Mar 11, 2010, at 8:39 PM, Dean May wrote:

> Very helpful, thank you
>
> I have studied Jason’s website, but of course the Coleman temps are  
> not in there.
>
> Dean
>
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> From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org]  
> On Behalf Of Ed Foote
> Sent: Thursday, March 11, 2010 8:19 PM
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Well Tempered tunings
>
>  Deand writes:
> I’ve used the Vallotti-Young, Broadwood Best, EBVT-3, Coleman 11 and  
> Coleman 16. The charts that I’ve studied don’t have many of the  
> above styles, or they are called something else. Can you help me,  
> Ed, or anyone else, put these in some kind of order from mild to  
> extreme, or give any other comments about them?
>
>     It is easiest to take a look at the size of the thirds.  In the  
> above list, from mild to extreme, I would say:
> Coleman 11, Broadwood's best. EBVT-3,(?) Coleman 16, and then the  
> Valotti-Young.  Not sure about the EBVT, since it has been a while  
> since I used it.
> Some temps. don't stray more than 4 cents from ET, in either  
> direction. Some go so far as 7 cents bigger than ET, with an  
> accompanying Just third at C.    I consider a temp. more extreme if  
> the full comma (21.5 cents) is found in the most remote thirds,    
> and there is also the consideration of how many, ie, the Young has  
> one third that wide while the Werksmeister III has three (if I  
> remember correctly).   The 1/4 C is pretty extreme, since it has dim  
> 4ths in place of 4 of the thirds, and some total consonance in the  
> rest.   Jim Coleman mentioned to me that his #16 was very close to  
> the Young.
>      I love Classical pieces in the more extreme WT's, but have had  
> some raised eyebrows from pianists that play a lot more modern  
> stuff.  I have heard Schubert on a Kirnberger III and it was sublime.
>
> Hope that helps,
> Ed Foote RPT
>

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