[pianotech] Further explanation: How long do unisons hold?

Terry Farrell mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com
Tue Mar 9 14:56:00 MST 2010


I really think Bill's question is legit. I've had much the same  
question in the back of my mind for years. Perhaps Bill is like me in  
that my tunings are pretty much the only tunings I ever hear. I don't  
work at a store or a school where I might have some exposure to other  
tuner's work. So in that vacuum, it can be difficult to conclude one  
way or the other "how am I doing?".

Terry Farrell

On Mar 9, 2010, at 4:44 PM, pianofritz50 at aol.com wrote:

> What is my point of asking "How long do unison’s hold?"  It’s kind  
> of a question that’s been in the back of my mind for awhile... I  
> tune as a recent HP-retired part-timer technician (tuning for the  
> past 7-8 years).  I’ve been to 3 Natl Conventions and one Chicago  
> Regional.
>
> After moving to St Louis (from Chicago), I’m getting all variations  
> of pianos to tune (good & bad).  I’ve had occasion, in an effort to  
> get my clientel up & running, to go back & be able to look & touch &  
> feel various pianos I’ve tuned.  Prior to recent times, I tuned &  
> went, coming back in the usual 6-12 months except in the case of my  
> Kawai 5’10” at home.
>
> So I’m still trying to increase my abilities and knowledge (and  
> probably always will…).  I appreciate you all sharing your ideas &  
> comments in this forum, even when there is disagreement... which  
> gives me more than one school of thought to chew on.
>
> Using a Verituner, I think my temperaments are pretty good... and I  
> always go over the piano one last time, searching for those warbling  
> unisons... augmented by checking fifths for more of the same.
>
> So, this being almost a life’s story, my latest focus seems to be  
> getting unisons that stay as long as possible.  (I recently enjoyed  
> reading Steve Brady’s “Under the Lid” book, which has only pushed me  
> to challenge myself even more.)
>
> A long answer as to why I’m asking the question.  A couple hours,  
> days, or weeks??
>
> Thanks for any/all input...   Bill Fritz, St Louis
>
>
> From:	David Ilvedson <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
> To:	pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject:	Re: [pianotech] How long do unisons hold?
> Date:	Mon, 8 Mar 2010 21:47:31 -0800
> Bill,
>
> All the jokes aside, unisons are the most important tuning we do.    
> We should be
> focusing on unisons above all else, but how can you put a time  
> length on unisons
> with all the variables.   We do the best we can.   A very skilled  
> tuner's
> unisons will last longer than someone with less skill.   I expect to  
> be able to
> come to our concert piano and have it within a cent and the unisons  
> very close.
> A once a year customer's piano unisons are going to stay as well as  
> can be
> expected...whatever that means.
>
> Out of curiosity, what is your point?
>
> David Ilvedson, RPT

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