[pianotech] Advice about intermittent note on Yamaha grand

David Ilvedson ilvey at sbcglobal.net
Mon Feb 15 12:58:12 MST 2010


Of course there are only a handful of tuners in Oz... '-]

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Received: 2/15/2010 11:56:40 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Advice about intermittent note on Yamaha grand


>Robin wrote..."No piano tuners I know of..."   that doesn't now become 

>> saying or implying that Piano Technicians never use the term 
>>"Baby Grand" is incorrect, and could be viewed by Robert as offensive.

>You're the one changing the words to fit your idea...

>David Ilvedson, RPT
>Pacifica, CA  94044

>----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>From: pianofritz50 at aol.com
>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>Received: 2/14/2010 8:10:58 PM
>Subject: Re: [pianotech] Advice about intermittent note on Yamaha grand



>>Robin, I did re-read your post.... and I quote your original email: "No piano tuners 
>I 
>>know of refers to any model grand as "a baby"".  "No piano tuners" does not equal 
>>"rarely".

>>Plus, if you check the other web links, Steinway refers to the S model as a Baby 
>>Grand... and yes of course, the web site is for the purchasing public.  The same 
>>ones who pay us for the tunings etc...

>>But my point is...  saying or implying that Piano Technicians never use the term 
>>"Baby Grand" is incorrect, and could be viewed by Robert as offensive.

>>Whatever, Whatever... It is indeed nice to have pianists try to learn more about 
>the 
>>technical side of a piano.  Heck, it's nice to have pianists... otherwise you & I etc 
>>wouldn't... ah well, I probably don't need to state the obvious.  "The customer is 
>>always right."

>>Bill Fritz




>>From:
>>Robin Stevens <pianobee at bigpond.com>

>>To:
>>pianotech at ptg.org

>>Subject:
>>Re: [pianotech] Advice about intermittent note on Yamaha grand

>>Date:
>>Mon, 15 Feb 2010 07:42:04 +1030



>>Bill if you re read my post I said that “tuners” rarely, if ever use the term 
>>“baby grand”  Your link is to the Yamaha site etc  would have been set up 
>by 
>>sales people for the non technical public who mostly refer to  all grands as 
>>“baby” ;-)
>>I own a 1936 Steinway B from a ABC here in Australia, They did a on air story 
>about 
>>this Broken Hill grand piano. The presenter spoke about the “baby grand” 
>>they used to have. A B Steinway is 6 foot 11 inches!! Far short of less than 4 feet 
>>which I would consider to be called baby.;-)
>>Robin Stevens
>> 
>> 

>>From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf 
>>Of pianofritz50 at aol.com
>>Sent: Sunday, 14 February 2010 11:46 PM
>>To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>Subject: [pianotech] Advice about intermittent note on Yamaha grand

>> 

>>No serious person uses the term "Baby Grand"?  

>> 

>>check out: http://www.kawaius.com/main_links/grands_09/ge20.html and

>>http://www.yamaha.com/yamahavgn/CDA/ContentDetail/ModelSeriesDetail.html?
>CN
>>TID=1325&CNTYP=PRODUCT&LGFL=Y

>>http://www.steinway.com/steinway/catalogue/models.shtml

>> 

>>Kawai & Yamaha & Steinway refer to a "Baby Grand" class of pianos.

>> 

>>Maybe some piano tuners don't refer to a classification of "Baby Grands", but 
>certain 
>>manufacturers certainly do.  

>> 

>>Robert:  That was a nice "thank you" to those who responded to your question w/ 
>>positive suggestions.  Hopefully we're all here to learn & share what knowledge we 
>>have.

>> 

>>Bill Fritz



>>From:

>>Robin Stevens <pianobee at bigpond.com>


>>To:

>>'Ken & Pat Gerler' <kenneth.gerler at prodigy.net>; pianotech at ptg.org


>>Subject:

>>[pianotech] Advice about intermittent note on Yamaha grand


>>Date:

>>Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:59:07 +1030



>>I think that Robert gave his non tech status away when he called his piano a 
>>"baby grand" No piano tuners I know of refers to any model grand as "a baby"
>> 
>>Robin 


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