In response to Julia Gottshall's messaqe, yes, I am concerned about anything that might affect my piano playing since I teach and give many concerts. I have some important concert engagements coming up this year in the USA and in Europe. The problem is that I don't know for sure what caused the tendonitis in the first place. It surfaced soon after the 2006 PTG Convention in Rochester. I don't know if it was caused by lifting a heavy suitcase, playing golf, piano tuning activities, or practicing the Rachmaninoff 2nd Sonata which is a big workout for the left hand in the last movement. All I know is that it was painful to tune pianos, hitting the keys firmly with the left hand to equalize the tension along the string and turning the tuning hammer with the right. Now that I have recovered, I feel I must tune my own piano and learn how to regulate it, and eventually take on a few customers again. Thank you for your suggestions about text books. I think this is a good forum to learn about piano technology, although from one or two responses I felt as though I was doing something wrong by even asking a question! I hope you get over your arm problem. I had a few cortisone injections and physical therapy for several months, but now it seems to have got better on it's own. All the best. Robert ---- pianotech-request at ptg.org wrote: > Send pianotech mailing list submissions to > pianotech at ptg.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > pianotech-request at ptg.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > pianotech-owner at ptg.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of pianotech digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: pianotech Digest, Vol 16, Issue 155 (PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com) > 2. Re: pianotech Digest, Vol 16, Issue 155 (PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com) > 3. Re: History (Mark Dierauf) > 4. things in pianos (Marshall Gisondi) > 5. Re: History (CHARLES BECKER) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:23:56 EST > From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] pianotech Digest, Vol 16, Issue 155 > Message-ID: <1ebcb.321ad545.38a9a7cc at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Julia forgot to mention a premier program in your own backyard--N > > > In a message dated 2/14/2010 12:24:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, > KeyKat88 at aol.com writes: > > > Greetings Robert, > > Do you still want to resume tuning? If so, how can you be sure > the physical problems won't return? As a pianist, I am sure that playing > trumps working on pianos. Yes? I had a scare a while back with an arm > problem. I am still not "out of the woods" altogether with it. I am a player too. > While I agree that a pianist should know more about the instrument's > technicals take care of your playing apparatus! > > To answer your question about where to learn more, there are > excelllent books available. I am not sure if you have to be a PTG member to > purchase them from the PTG, but the guild carries them. This forum is a good > place to learn alot and you can also search the PTG archives. University > of Western Ontario has a pretty good certificate program on piano technology > too. It's one school year: Sept until April. _www.uwo.ca_ > (http://www.uwo.ca/) click on industry, then click on Don Wright Faculty of music, click > on Piano Technology. > > Best Wishes, > Julia Gottshall > Reading, PA > > In a message dated 2/14/2010 12:53:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, > rsfinley at charter.net writes: > > Here is my background. Soem time ago I started a correspondence course in > piano technology and I am an Associate member of the Boston Chapter of the > PTG. Shortly after I started the course, training as an apprentice, and a > few tuning customers, I developed very painful tendonitis in my left arm and > back pain. Piano tuning seemed to make the pain worse. > > I put the piano technology work on hold for a while and concentrated on > teaching piano students and giving recitals (I am a concert pianist and I > have played in the USA and overseas). Playing the piano didn't seem to bother > me as much. I have now recovered from that and now want to get involved > again in learning more about piano technology with some practical experience. > I think everyone has to learn and start somewhere, and maybe ask questions > that some might consider trivial. It's a huge field and there is a > tremendous amount to learn, and it takes time. > > As far as pianists understanding about how a piano works and about the > technology, I couldn't agree more. I think an overview about this would be > useful in a piano degree course if it isn't already. > > There are some famous concert pianists who are very knowledgeable about > piano technology. Krystian Zimermann comes to mind. I believe he built his > own piano? I think Alfred Brendel also knows a lot about piano tuning and > technology as well. > > Thank you all very much for your suggestions and advice so far. > > All the best. > > Robert > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100214/c031d8a2/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:24:50 EST > From: PAULREVENKOJONES at aol.com > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] pianotech Digest, Vol 16, Issue 155 > Message-ID: <1ec15.69a860d1.38a9a802 at aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > Julia forgot to mention a premier school in your own backyard--NBSS, and of > course, in Chicago, CSPT. > > Paul > > > In a message dated 2/14/2010 12:24:20 A.M. Central Standard Time, > KeyKat88 at aol.com writes: > > > Greetings Robert, > > Do you still want to resume tuning? If so, how can you be sure > the physical problems won't return? As a pianist, I am sure that playing > trumps working on pianos. Yes? I had a scare a while back with an arm > problem. I am still not "out of the woods" altogether with it. I am a player too. > While I agree that a pianist should know more about the instrument's > technicals take care of your playing apparatus! > > To answer your question about where to learn more, there are > excelllent books available. I am not sure if you have to be a PTG member to > purchase them from the PTG, but the guild carries them. This forum is a good > place to learn alot and you can also search the PTG archives. University > of Western Ontario has a pretty good certificate program on piano technology > too. It's one school year: Sept until April. _www.uwo.ca_ > (http://www.uwo.ca/) click on industry, then click on Don Wright Faculty of music, click > on Piano Technology. > > Best Wishes, > Julia Gottshall > Reading, PA > > In a message dated 2/14/2010 12:53:38 AM Eastern Standard Time, > rsfinley at charter.net writes: > > Here is my background. Soem time ago I started a correspondence course in > piano technology and I am an Associate member of the Boston Chapter of the > PTG. Shortly after I started the course, training as an apprentice, and a > few tuning customers, I developed very painful tendonitis in my left arm and > back pain. Piano tuning seemed to make the pain worse. > > I put the piano technology work on hold for a while and concentrated on > teaching piano students and giving recitals (I am a concert pianist and I > have played in the USA and overseas). Playing the piano didn't seem to bother > me as much. I have now recovered from that and now want to get involved > again in learning more about piano technology with some practical experience. > I think everyone has to learn and start somewhere, and maybe ask questions > that some might consider trivial. It's a huge field and there is a > tremendous amount to learn, and it takes time. > > As far as pianists understanding about how a piano works and about the > technology, I couldn't agree more. I think an overview about this would be > useful in a piano degree course if it isn't already. > > There are some famous concert pianists who are very knowledgeable about > piano technology. Krystian Zimermann comes to mind. I believe he built his > own piano? I think Alfred Brendel also knows a lot about piano tuning and > technology as well. > > Thank you all very much for your suggestions and advice so far. > > All the best. > > Robert > > > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100214/381737b7/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:25:19 -0500 > From: Mark Dierauf <pianotech at nhpianos.com> > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Subject: Re: [pianotech] History > Message-ID: <4B784E1F.8070508 at nhpianos.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" > > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100214/864a7451/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 12:18:37 -0800 > From: Marshall Gisondi <pianotune05 at hotmail.com> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > Subject: [pianotech] things in pianos > Message-ID: <BLU107-W273635194DC562C265968AB94B0 at phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Hey everyone, > > wow 1860s air. Make sure yo don't catch any thing from that air. :-) Of course we have cures for that stuff now. > > > > the guy signing the piano on Christmas eve was probably thinking > > "We better get this piano finished and on to teh wagon so they can have it by Christmas morning. Man how the kids will love this swell piano. Let me sign it just in case I can be remembered some day for my work as a piano maker.." :-) > > > > I like finding interesting thigns in pianos too ,but havent so far, just a few guitar picks, from some of the pianos at school, usualy dust and cob webs, a pencil, oh and when I lieved in Indiana, a dead mouse, well what was left of it. I did find some cob webs that were so thick by the pedal linkage and trap work I couln't hardly get to the pedal system. When I find my first million in a piano I"ll take us all to dinner. Big macs on me lol > > Marshall > > > > Marshall Gisondi Piano Technician > Marshall's Piano Service > pianotune05 at hotmail.com > 215-510-9400 > Graduate of The School of Piano Technology for the Blind www.pianotuningschool.org Vancouver, WA > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Free, trusted and rich email service. > http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/201469228/direct/01/ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100214/95ed8f9a/attachment-0001.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 14:26:28 -0500 > From: "CHARLES BECKER" <cbeckercpt at verizon.net> > To: <pianotech at ptg.org> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] History > Message-ID: <01365E67F63D4A208C03B9C7905F416D at D7RP7YF1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I wonder what it was like to be the piano repo man . It would be difficult to be stealthy I'm sure. > Actually in this economy there probably are still some out there. Any repo stories? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: David Love > To: pianotech at ptg.org > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 1:55 PM > Subject: Re: [pianotech] History > > > Can you believe the outrageous interest they were charging in those days! > > > > David Love > > www.davidlovepianos.com > > > > From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of CHARLES BECKER > Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 9:27 AM > To: PTG > Subject: [pianotech] History > > > > I found all the original paperwork in a 1927 Chickering Model F grand piano. I thought some of you might be interested. > > > > The transaction was in Boston. The Chickering sold for $1375. There was a trade-in of two uprights. 1895 Ivers and Pond and an 1895 Burton player( Henry F. Miller) the trade-in amount was $375. $ 100 down no interest for 60 days then 6% interest per annum. > > > > There is a release for the uprights as well as a hand-written warranty. I like finding this stuff. > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: <http://ptg.org/pipermail/pianotech.php/attachments/20100214/67a6446c/attachment.htm> > > ------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech mailing list > pianotech at ptg.org > http://ptg.org/mailman/listinfo/pianotech > > > End of pianotech Digest, Vol 16, Issue 163 > ******************************************
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