[pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion

[David Ilvedson]

I think you are more likely to be more OK with a Yamaha...Kawai, than a US Steinway.  

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA  94044

----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: "Paul T Williams" <pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu>
To: pianotech at ptg.org
Received: 2/5/2010 10:56:42 AM
Subject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion


>Randy,

>I've never tried the pre-hung Steinway hammers, but have thought about 
>doing it as I have time crunches with certain classroom or professor 
>studios here at Univ of NE.  What goes wrong with them?  I'm curious. I've 
>never heard a negative comment about them, nor do I know anyone that has 
>ordered them, personally.   Has anyone else out there ordered pre-hung?

>Best,
>Paul




>From:
>Randy Chastain <Randy_Chastain at sbcglobal.net>
>To:
>pianotech at ptg.org
>Date:
>02/05/2010 11:59 AM
>Subject:
>Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion



>Tom,
>I like your two cents and from having almost completed today a hammer job 
>for a Steinway L with Steinway hammers (request of owner) , thank you for 
>bringing up part of the detailed process and skill it takes to do a good 
>and proper job.  The attention to detail can be overlooked for sure by 
>some and end up with a bigger problem. The hard work starts at the 
>beginning no matter who you get your parts from. Its the detailed work 
>that pays off. I still hear of techs who buy, for example pre hung 
>Steinway hammers :( . I did that once early on and, oh my gosh!!!Never, 
>never again. 

>I would be very interested in how you or anybody else find the proper 
>hammer line/sweet spot. I can ALWAYS learn something. I have one of those 
>diseases that I have to keep learning. There's just so much out there that 
>I can't help myself. I live in the San Francisco bay area and I wish there 
>was a better way for me to continue to learn after 15 years of this. I 
>have it. 

>Randy Chastain




>On Feb 5, 2010, at 2:26 AM, Tom Servinsky wrote:

>> Steven
>> I'll throw my 2 cents in on this one.
>> Truth be  told, there are many types of hammers that could work for this 
>piano. With good voicing techniques and a good understanding how many 
>different types of hammers respond, one can get the sound of the piano to 
>be clear and full bodied. That being said, it's all  a matter of how much 
>time and effort you want to make.
>> Although I  have my go-to hammers I prefer, I finding more and more it's 
>more of doing an exquisite hanging job that makes for a nice sounding C7. 
>Taking the time to make sure that the traveling is dead-on, and your 
>hammer strike line reflects that of the sweet spots of the piano will lay 
>the grounds for a nice voicing experience. It's when the strike line is 
>not in check with the piano that we end treating the symptoms and not the 
>disease. I've seen countless techs spending too much time trying to 
>overcome the problems of a bad strike line or poor traveling.
>> Tom Servinsky
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "David Ilvedson" 
><ilvey at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
>> Sent: Friday, February 05, 2010 12:12 AM
>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion
>> 
>> 
>>> No offense to anyone in particular...OK?...but this idea that any piano 
>hammer can be hung and sounds great right off the bat...well, I've got a 
>problem with that.   I think we need a little more education in voicing...
>>> 
>>> David Ilvedson, RPT
>>> Pacifica, CA  94044
>>> 
>>> ----- Original message ----------------------------------------
>>> From: "John Dever" <jazzman3743 at live.com>
>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>> Received: 2/4/2010 4:13:11 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Ari Isaac Cadenza "S" Hammers.
>>> 
>>>> I just had a set installed on my Petrof
>>> 
>>>> Nice right out of the box.
>>> 
>>>> JD
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> From: hoppsmusic at hotmail.com
>>>> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>>>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 02:49:37 +0000
>>>> Subject: [pianotech] Yamaha Hammer Suggestion
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> Hello List,
>>>> 
>>>> I am looking for a suggestion of new hammers for a Yamaha C7.  It will 
>be used in a
>>>> small hall (seating less than 300).  The preference would be for as 
>full and rich a
>>>> sound as possible with a crisp high treble.  I would hope for hammers 
>that would not
>>>> need extensive voicing immediately.
>>>> 
>>>> Has anyone replaced hammers and have any experience or suggestions?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> 
>>>> Steven Hopp
>>>> Midland, TX
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
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