Thumpe writes: << I have a VERY big, long set of needelnose pliers ( about 18" from end of handle to tip ) that are easier to get in between the pins than Vise-grips ( which I used up to this point ) and definitely give you all the leverage you need for nice, tight beckets. >> And while we are talking about beckets, how about a round of condemnation for the technique of sticking a bit of the wire out the opposite side of the tuning pin? There are a number of reasons not to, but I still see it happening a fair amount of the time. Ed Foote RPT http://www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/index.html www.uk-piano.org/edfoote/well_tempered_piano.html <BR><BR><BR>**************<BR>A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220439616x1201372437/aol?redir=http:%2F%2Fwww.freecreditreport.com%2Fpm%2Fdefault.aspx%3Fsc% 3D668072%26hmpgID%3D62%26bcd%3DfebemailfooterNO62)</HTML>
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