And look,
Now that you said Pbbbbbthhht, I now have to clean my keyboard! ;>)
Pw
Euphonious Thumpe <lclgcnp at yahoo.com>
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Thanks, Paul,
I'm "with you" on this! BLECHHHH! And as the "let's all be filthy so
we have strong immune systems" argument. Pbbbbbthhhht! There goes
civilization!!! ( Ever stand behind a person who hasn't had a bath in a
month, in line at the coffee shop, or heard of "Typhoid Mary" ??? )
Hey! While we're at it, why not tell the surgeon about to do your
appendectomy "Don't bother scrubbimg up!" because you'll either "be fine",
get a nasty, painful infection but recover, or "improve the gene pool" by
dying out as one of the "immunologically deficient"!!!
Phooey! Civilized culture relies on people being clean and courteous,
and NOT leaving a trail ( like a slug ) for others to contend with
!!!!!!!
Euphonious Thumpe
P.S. It's also been confirmed that some of us have 500 times more
taste-buds per square inch than others, so are VASTLY more sensitive to
odors!
But I know a piano technician who opened his mouth to talk to me, and
the distinct stink of mouse-pee ( from instruments he'd been working on )
wafted from his lungs!!! Whatever microbes were in those pianos, were now
a part of HIM! Increasingly, scientific research is proving that
micro-organisms getting into the bloodstreams ( and brains ) of their
"host" victims affect their thinking, and actions, to the benefit of the
microorganisms' reproductive cycles.
Thanks, but no thanks!
Or, to put it musically, "I wanna be meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!"
--- On Tue, 2/3/09, John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca> wrote:
> From: John Ross <jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca>
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] smooth or rough keys
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Date: Tuesday, February 3, 2009, 10:58 AM
> I just read a medical article, that said the reason so many
> children are allergic to so much is that they never built up
> a resistance to anything, they are so protected.
> I am 71, and I remember back when I was a kid, we did many
> things that would be considered unhygienic and harmful, but
> we survived fine.
> Are we perhaps making too much of this hygiene thing.
> They suggest giving peanuts for that allergy now. Mind you
> I can't remember if it was before or after. (the age
> thing again :-) )
> John Ross
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul T Williams
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2009 10:08 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] smooth or rough keys
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> Yes, but I lysol wipe the keytops. How do you disinfect
> the wood?
> Paul
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> "Joe And Penny Goss"
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> Hi,
> Isn't that work only cosmetic> The germs are still
> there!
> Joe Goss RPT
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Paul T Williams
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 3:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] smooth or rough keys
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> You know, the black gunk on key sides takes a long time
> to build up. It's really gross! needs to be sanded
> off! I HATE doing it! But....I do....(A razor blade works
> great, but, ooooooh, very nasty to think of what it is!!!)
> I try to, once per semester, take some Lysol wipes and go
> over the keytops of our 110 pianosx88keys, but they all
> don't always get it for obvious reasons! I did do this
> during the winter break before Spring semester
> started.....I'm noticing a few less gagging students
> around here! maybe it really helps! (I still try not to
> grab the hand rails up and down the stairs when I'm
> able...)
>
> I play, for sure, but the thing I hate the most is
> playing slimy hand-lotion laden keys! Ugggh!
>
> Paul
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> "Carl Teplitski" <koko99 at shaw.ca>
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> Thank you. Great answers for sure. Two great opinions,
> and I suppose ,
> if ten more players answered, they most likely would be
> similar, or
> somewhere in between.
>
> Carl / Winnipeg
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>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Euphonious Thumpe"
> <lclgcnp at yahoo.com>
> To: <pianotech at ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, February 02, 2009 11:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [pianotech] smooth or rough keys
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> I also play professionally, and wouldn't dream of
> touching a piano
> ( or anything else that's not mine, outside of a
> doorknob ) without washing
> my hands, first. Besides its being inconsiderate ( in my
> considered
> opinion ) I've spent too many days scraping black goo
> off the sides of keys,
> from grimy fingers, and also seen how sweat can literally
> dissolve keys! I
> also don't like sitting to play a piano in a public
> place, and feel
> unidentified slimy scum on my fingertips, from whomever
> sat there last. (
> NOT conducive to "artistic reveries"!) Also: I
> knew a music major who
> could rip through all the Liszt Hungarian Rhapsodies
> "in her sleep" but ate
> chicken in the University practice rooms, licked her
> fingers and then
> played!!! In "no time" THAT piano really STANK
> !!!!!!! )
>
> That said, I like playing with just-washed hands, on
> very clean, cool,
> "silky" cellulose-type keytops. I find its
> "satiny" feel extremely
> comfortable. ( Much nicer than "plastic". Does
> anyone still make this stuff
> ? )
>
> Euphonious Thumpe
>
>
> --- On Sun, 2/1/09, Steven Hopp
> <hoppsmusic at hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Steven Hopp <hoppsmusic at hotmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [pianotech] smooth or rough keys
> > To: pianotech at ptg.org
> > Date: Sunday, February 1, 2009, 9:30 PM
> > Carl,
> >
> > Having played the piano nearly 40 years and still
> > practicing 2-3 hours a day and performing regularly
> > throughout the year with at least one or two solo
> recitals I
> > feel qualified to answer giving my opinion.
> >
> > First, if I perform anywhere I do not wash my hands
> first.
> > Most soaps leave a residue on the skin that can be
> slippery
> > sometimes. A little natural dirt and oil provides a
> bit of
> > a grip that is desirable over slick clean hands. I
> prefer
> > pianos with as you call them rough keys. Ivory is a
> great
> > feel under the fingers as are ebony or flat black
> keys.
> > These types of keys give me a sense of security in
> most
> > rapid passage work and a nice grip for the fingers.
> > However, I think it would feel very strange to play
> on
> > plastic keys that had been steel wooled. Smooth
> plastic
> > would be much preferred over something not quite
> natural.
> > If the keys were sticky gross that would be bad but
> here
> > again smooth plastic keys with just a bit of natural
> residue
> > on them would grip a little better than highly
> polished
> > keys. These keys would push me into what I call the
> > "danger zone".
> >
> > If your clients piano keys are gross then by all
> means keep
> > teaching them to keep them clean. I have found that
> most
> > clients are more horrified when they learn of the
> garbage
> > that lurks underneath the keys that little Sally or
> Johnny
> > is playing over. (mice nests, bugs, cockroach eggs
> and the
> > like). This cleaning service can really make a
> satisfied
> > customer. Hope this helps and it is just my
> opinion.
> >
> > Steven Hopp
> >
> >
> >
> > From: koko99 at shaw.caTo: ;Date: Mon, 26 Jan 2009
> 23:43:16
> > -0600Subject: [pianotech] smooth or rough keys
> >
> >
> > Reading the posts re. washing your hands, led me to
> asking
> > this question.
> > Many times in a customers home I've encountered
> a
> > keyboard that was
> > slow and sticky. I don't mean sticky, like
> tacky, but
> > you can't run your fingures
> > along the keys without feeling drag. Hate the
> feeling, so
> > I suggest to the
> > person I'm dealing with that I show them
> something that
> > could help make playing
> > easier . First I have them drag their fingures
> along the
> > keys, and then I clean
> > an octave. When they run their fingures from the
> keys that
> > drag to the clean
> > part, the difference is quite obvious. Even if
> they
> > aren't the one playing, they
> > can see that it should be easier for little Johnny
> or Mary
> > to perform on clean
> > keys. Most of the time, on my next visit, the keys
> are
> > clean.
> >
> > My question is this: do most high skilled pianists
> prefer
> > a smooth shiny
> > keyboard, or one that has an ivory, sanded type
> surface?
> > Not sure if I've
> > asked the question properly. When I've
> steelwooled key
> > tops to get them
> > smooth , plastic or ivory, there is this feel
> I'm
> > trying to describe. If it's plastic
> > for sure, I will buff to high gloss. Should they be
> left
> > somewhere a little
> > before the gloss appears ?? Pretty hard to do, I
> think.
> >
> > Carl / Winnipeg
> >
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