Thanks Dale for the info. I have already sent an email to Renner about this, but, no answer yet. Let us see if Renner has this new felt. I will keep you guys and gals informed. friendly greetings from André Oorebeek Antoni van Leeuwenhoekweg 15 1401 VW, Bussum the Netherlands tel : +31 35 6975840 gsm : +31 652 388008 "where Music is, no harm can be" On Oct 17, 2008, at 6:41 PM, erwinspiano at aol.com wrote: > > > > Dear Andre > The New felt has been under proprietary wraps until now. Not even > Renner in Germany knew till just lately. Jack, Ray & I have been > working on this for quite a while now. > > Hi Dale and Listers, > Except from this list, I have not yet heard about the new "Weickert > Special by Wurzen" here in Europe. > I find that strange. > I will of course ask Renner, traditionally the Wurzen felt hammer > maker. > I wonder about the hardness of this Weickert Special? > These last years new Wurzen felt hammers were a bit soft. I have > learned how to solve that problem, but I have asked Renner Europe to > do something about that. > I am a bit afraid that this new top quality felt might be too soft > as well. > > I assure you, it is not soft in terms you describe. If it were, > the testors & I would not be getting this gorgeous tone from the > beginning with hammers pressed far differently than what you're > accustomed to. > It is like nothing I've used before. The fiber interlocking is the > key. It gains it's natural hardness by true tension & compression, > something that in the art of hammer making that has been forgotten > or lost or perhaps misunderstood. You could instruct Renner Germany > to press it however suits you when it become available to them as > you have that relationship with them. > > We are in agreement that Jack Brand's felt is the best hammer felt > in the world > I therefore am happy with my Wurzen A from Renner. > I am of course curious though and open to try it out. > I will contact Jack Brand and Renner. > > Good. will enjoy your feedback > Kindest regards...as always > Dale Erwin > > > friendly greetings > from > André Oorebeek > > Antoni van Leeuwenhoekweg 15 > 1401 VW, Bussum > the Netherlands > > tel : +31 35=2 06975840 > gsm : +31 652 388008 > > "where Music is, no harm can be" > > > > > On Oct 16, 2008, at 3:00 AM, erwinspiano at aol.com wrote: > >> >> Hi Andre >> Good to hear from you on this as I know you have championed the >> cause of excellent feltand have been a staunch proponent of >> properly pressed hammers. Both as you say is so important. >> It's nice to know Renner makes a hammer you can work with there. >> Renner USA in the states has also been a long and trusted >> supporter of W urzen Felt co. & the Brand family. In fact, from the >> very beginning Lloyd Meyer Of Renner U.S.A. signed up with Jack to >> reintroduce the quality felt made in that plant. The Quality of The >> Renner USA product shows the Commitment of Lloyd & Donna Meyer to >> this endeavor. We are directly and indirectly in there debt as they >> were one of Jacks first clients when the plant reopened in 1992. >> Consequently Jack has passionately pursued the making of Fine >> Hammer felt using20many of the original J.D Weickert co. formulas >> and protocols. >> The Wurzen made felts have been called thus far and are Known by >> the felt grades of... Wurzen.. A ... and AA. >> I want to be clear that this latest iteration is known by the >> now trademarked name the "Weickert special by Wurzen" and is a >> fairly dramatic shift up the quality line in terms of felt science >> and technology. In fact Ray,Jack and I discoverd that it is so >> dramatically different that w e decided it required this name. >> All the Hammer felts Wurzen makes are fine quality and this new >> Weickert special by Wurzen gives us another huge compliment to our >> tonal arsenals & huge a move toward the future of a more musical >> piano tone. >> I will truthfully say that Jack is a true artisan felt maker >> who is also as equally passionate about this en deavor as >> technicians. This strkies me as odd because Jacks Wurzen co. make >> so many felt products and hammer felt is small part of the felt >> making operation. Yet, he loves it. You know...we are all >> passionate about something. Jacks is felt & ours is tone >> My Friends we have a true ally in our business & he is my friend, >> Jack . My only regret is we didn't meet sooner. Perhaps we can get >> him to teach at our conventions more frequently. >> &nbs p; Andre, I'm looking forward to getting a copy of your >> voicing book. WHen does it come out? >> Dale Erwin >> >> >> You guys seem to forget that Renner makes very beautiful hammers >> here in Europe, with.. Wurzen felt. >> I have been in contact with Jack Brand for a long time, and I have >> followed the development of his 'Wurzen felt' right from the start, >> after the reunion of the two Germany's. >> I have had this fantastic felt for a=2 0long time now and I never >> ever want any other felt. >> Because of my age, (I am 59) I am a typical example of a generation >> that was forced to learn voicing with the felt that was for sale as >> an alternative for the Weickert felt, simply because the Weickert >> felt was not produced anymore after the Soviets entered East Germany. >> Getting acquainted with the 'new' Wurzen felt was a surprising >> discovery! even though i t was in its early stages of development >> after all those years. >> I have actually learned to voice this renewed Weickert felt, which >> was named Wurzen felt after the town where it is made (Wurzen), at >> Yamaha, because they were, I guess, one of the very first ones >> (together with Steinway, to use the new Wurzen felt on their CFIII-S. >> I do not really like the AA standard because it is, according to >> me, too dense and too heavy, and it takes much longer to voice than >> the single A standard which is my favorite. >> The real secret of having a fine success with these hammers is : >> 1. the quality of the wool >> 2. the quality of the felt >> 3. the quality of the hammer maker >> 4. the quality of the technician >> >> I have been able to influence Renner to make a hammer for me, >> according to my taste. >> That makes all the difference! and that is , I guess, is what Ray >> Negron is doing. >> He (Ray Negron)20told me that his father used Weickert felt in the >> old days. >> Because of our contact, years ago, and through the willingness of >> Jack Brand, the Weickert/Wurzen felt came back to Ronsen and back >> to the US. >> >> friendly greetings >> from >> André Oorebeek >> >> >> > > > > > = -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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