Hi Dale Of course this a very sensitive topic with too much of emotional reaction sometime. All the big hammer maker try to please piano factory first at the best price so the industrial process is the priority. Some felt like Wurzen AA work well if the hammer as a lot of tension, heat and too much pressure broke the tension and kill the live inside the felt. In China they are hand presses but too much heat to cure the glue and they heat again before they slice the felt tube in individual hammer. They deep the felt strip in some special juice before pressing all this injury a high quality felt. The better the felt the more sensitive the are that why Ray and me has good result with our old fashion way to make hammer. The hydraulic could not make tension hammer like l do on the picture. Thank to André to make me know about the Wurzen felt six years ago, I bring myself to Ray is first wurzen sheet(22 pound) four years ago and he doing good think with it. There is big competition between felt maker and it's very good to all of use Abel got nice natural felt and Wurzen got this new Weickert thing go for a better future for the sound of the grand piano. Serge 2008/10/15 <erwinspiano at aol.com> > Hi Serge > Good to hear from you. So, this means I must recant on the *Only one the > Planet* part. I humbly do so. > The salient point I was making was Ray is our only source who provides > these hammers readily and commercially and, that they are made with a Dolge > type screw press. He's the only one I/we are familiar with. If there are > others that provide product like this we should surely be informed of it. > I know you are Rays friend & I knew you made hammers for your own use. > How incredibly valuable is your mutual association. > To my defense...I'm probably not the only one who hasn't ever heard of > the Paris firm. As for the Chinese I hear the results are very > inconsistent, apparently no matter what press they use. However that could > change being the quick and bright students of any craft that they are. > Anyway for the last 40 years Ray & his family have & continue to be our > reliable, and dependable supply of this type of hammer in the states & his > expertise is surely unparalleled. > In my book he is a true Master Hammer maker. Tom..I like the Golden hammer > winner idea! > Kindest regards > > Dale Erwin > > > > Dear Dale > > Sorry Dale but Ray is just the only one in USA not on the PLANET. > The majority of the hammer head from China are hand screw press. > And there is a French maker in Paris: Desfougere that use hand presses > And I'm the only one to use the real Alfred Dolge presses > > I do agree with all you said about the felt and how to press it and Ray do > good jog for sure. > > > Serge Harel > Canada > > > > > 2008/10/15 <erwinspiano at aol.com> > >> >> >> David L. David A. >> I thank you for this post.* Ray is the only guy on the planet providing >> hammers commercially using the hand screw press*. It is this fact, which >> allows for his artisan approach to hammer making., that and 40 years of >> experience and dedication. Truly impressive. He'd be blushing to hear me go >> on. He deserves it. >> As Will Truit said hammers and felt vary, it's the real world, get over >> it. Felt making is absolutely an art form and yet densities in a felt >> sheet can vary from sheet to sheet. The beauty of the Dolge screw press is >> that the operator can feel how much pressure each uniquely made strip of >> felt requires to achieve a narrow spectrum of density in the final product. >> This so important because hydraulic presses can literally squash the life >> out of felt especially when coupled with too much heat. Rays hands can feel >> this pressure. I've been there I've turned the screws. It's an acquired >> skill to be sure. Hey it keeps him in shape. >> >> Dale Erwin >> >> >> Yes it is. And I hope people appreciate Ray and what he is doing >> delivering a custom made hammer and responding to the needs and input from >> the techs. Not to diminish the commitments of the other suppliers like Abel >> and Renner who deliver a very high quality product but it tends to be more >> of a one style fits all approach. Ray is really trying to respond to the >> variety of tonal requirements that are part of our daily bread. There isn't >> anyone else doing this with hammers right now and he should be applauded and >> supported! >> David Love >> davidlovepianos at comcast.net >> www.davidlovepianos.com >> . 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