Wouldn't the rag touch the bass strings, or do you shield them? John Ross Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada jrpiano at win.eastlink.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: Willem Blees To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Monday, March 31, 2008 2:01 PM Subject: Re: Grand Cleaning David To clean the plate, I remove the action, and using a damp rag, dipped in a solution of Mr. Clean (or some other cleaner), and luke warm water, I push the rag from the bass string area to the high treble with a soundboard steel. I take the rag out at the high treble into the action cavity. I do this a number of times, covering all the parts of the soundboard. I rinse the rags for each pass. When I get done, I vacuum up the dirt in the action cavity. If the lid prop isn't long enough for you to get to the bass end, I use the front rail to prop up the lid. Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT Piano Tuner/Technician Honolulu, HI Author of The Business of Piano Tuning available from Potter Press www.pianotuning.com -----Original Message----- From: Jean and David Weiss <djweiss at ntelos.net> To: 'Pianotech List' <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 8:38 pm Subject: RE: Grand Cleaning Wim, I like the idea of the posts cards to hand to the customers. Can you please tell me your method for cleaning the plate? David Weiss From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Willem Blees Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 12:42 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: Grand Cleaning I've just made up post cards I can hand to my customers when I see a need for cleaning service. It not only explains what I'm going to do, but also includes a short disclaimer. I could do the work in the customer's house, but I want to shape hammers and tighten screws on my bench in my shop, not on the piano, the floor, or the piano bench. Upright cleaning service: $175.00 1. Remove action 2. Shape hammers 3. Tighten screws 4. Blow dirt out of action 5. Clean keys 6. Vacuum under keys and bottom of the piano 7. Clean and polish pedals. Cleaning service does not include case cleaning, touch up, or polishing, action regulation or any repairs to the piano, action, case, strings, or any other piano components. Grand piano cleaning service: $275.00 1. Remove action 2. Shape hammers 3. Tighten screws 4. Blow dirt out of action 5. Vacuum keyframe 6. Clean keys 7. Vacuum action cavity 8. Clean under strings 9. Clean plate 10. Clean pin area 11. Clean and polish pedals and pedal rods. Cleaning service does not include case cleaning, touch up, or polishing, action regulation or any repairs to the piano, action, case, strings, or any other piano components. Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT Piano Tuner/Technician Honolulu, HI Author of The Business of Piano Tuning available from Potter Press www.pianotuning.com -----Original Message----- From: Isaac Sadigursky <irs.pianos at earthlink.net> To: 'Pianotech List' <pianotech at ptg.org> Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:03 pm Subject: RE: Grand Cleaning Hi,Mathtew! I do clean pianos daily and what works for me is: ELECTROLUX vacuum cleaner with TWO hoses.First,vacuum all possible dust and junk,then using blower end in one hand and suction end in another hand proceed and this powerful vacuum will do the trick..Few more precausons to keep dust from flying all over customers living room;put damp cloth on sndbrd around the tail of a grand piano,it works as an arrestor for dust…All procedure takes less then 20 minutes..Vacuum is equipped with automatic cord rewinder,2 hoses,rags,towels are packed in roll-away wheeled luggage case…good luck…Isaac ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Willem Blees Sent: Friday, March 28, 2008 11:36 PM To: pianotech at ptg.org Subject: Re: Grand Cleaning Matthew You've gotten some good advice, but what I have not seen is what I used to do in St. Louis, and something I am going to start doing for my customer here in Hawaii. For grands, I take the action home and clean the keys, vacuum under the keys, tighten the screws and shape the hammers. When I return to the customer, I vacuum out the action cavity, clean the soundboard with a damp rag, using a soundboard steel, clean the plate and vacuum the pin area using a hard bristle paint brush. The most important part of this is cleaning the soundboard and the pin area because that is what the customer sees. One other thing I will do is clean the pedals. The salt air here on the island corrodes most pedals. But all you will have to do is polish them. It adds a nice touch. It will take about 2 hours to do all of this, plus a second trip to the customer's house, so price it accordingly. Willem (Wim) Blees, RPT Piano Tuner/Technician Honolulu, HI Author of The Business of Piano Tuning available from Potter Press www.pianotuning.com -----Original Message----- From: Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks at yahoo.com> To: pianotech at ptg.org Sent: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 7:06 am Subject: Grand Cleaning A client wants me to come over and clean her Kawai grand. This will be my first, and I was curious as to what kind of service(s) I can offer her. According to the "G" piano works labor guide, a complete grand cleaning can take as long as 3.5 hrs. When I talked with my client, she had only mentioned about cleaning the soundboard, but then again, she may not realize all the dust that can accumulate in her keybed, etc. What kind of cleaning services do you all offer? Do you offer the most basic service and go up to the most complete cleaning? When I go through a car wash, I can pay three bucks, and all they'll do is hose my car down. Or I can pay more for scrubbing, and even more to get the wheels done. I just need advice on how to sort this out. 3.5 hrs sounds like a great service, but I don't know how many clients are willing to pay that. Thanks in advance! Matthew ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Planning your summer road trip? Check out AOL Travel Guides. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20080331/cf1c0a72/attachment.html
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