set letoff to get acceptable aftertouch?

paulrevenkojones at aol.com paulrevenkojones at aol.com
Mon Jun 16 23:02:10 MDT 2008


 So he did. And that's already excessive. I'm not sure though whether that reflected an even dip throughout the compass, or if he had established that in the bass only in order to try to get aftertouch or even escapement. My point if there was one was to create a baseline. Obviously he needs to make sure that blow is set, but blow changes with key height, too. Is that as clear as mud? ;-)

P


 


 

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From: Barbara Richmond <piano57 at comcast.net>
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Paul,


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But didn't he say the dip was 12 mm?


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Barbara



  
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Sent: Monday, June 16, 2008 10:24 
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Subject: Re: set letoff to get acceptable 
  aftertouch?

  



  
You might check key height and level down through the bass. If you can 
  raise the keys slightly (shim under the balance rail), you'll get enough key 
  travel for jack escapement and aftertouch. Almost all "bobbling hammers" are 
  the result of too little or no aftertouch due to settling of the keys at the 
  balance rail. Generally, though, it's in the middle of the piano where it is 
  most played. Hmmm. You'll then, 
  however, have to adjust dip, lost motion, and checking again. Just a 
  thought.

Paul


  



  


-----Original Message-----
From: Barbara Richmond 
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Sent: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 6:46 pm
Subject: Re: 
  set letoff to get acceptable aftertouch?


  
Daniel,?
?
Like 
  Terry said, decrease hammer blow distance. Then your problems (bobbling 
  hammers/heavy touch) are probably due to too-strong hammer and/or damper 
  springs...and it also could be too-soon damper lift. Also checking the height 
  of the balance hole with a balance hole reamer would be in order. OK, check 
  for too-tight balance holes and bushings, too.?
?
Barbara 
  Richmond, RPT?
near Peoria, IL?
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  Message ----- From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2 at tampabay.rr.com>?
To: 
  <megdanmak at sbcglobal.net>; 
  "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org>?
Sent: 
  Monday, June 16, 2008 3:41 PM?
Subject: Re: set letoff to get 
  acceptable aftertouch??
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>> would any of you ever set 
  letoff far away enough from?
>> the strings to get acceptable 
  aftertouch, if nothing?
>> else seems to be 
  working??
>?
> No.?
>?
>> it's 
  a crappy piano, a?
>> bradbury console. i'm need to get an 
  acceptable?
>> regulation, but nothing 
  more.?
>>?
>> i've tried playing with strike 
  distance and dip and?
>> can't seem to get good enough 
  aftertough in a small?
>> section of the bass (perhaps two and a 
  half octaves)?
>> to avoid bobbling.?
>?
> 
  You should be able to remove punchings at the front rail pin or even use a 
  > thinner felt punching.?
>?
>> also the dip is 
  about 12 mm. is it?
>> a sin to go deeper to get acceptable 
  aftertouch? i?
>> don't remember hearing anyone mentioning 
  keydip that?
>> deep.?
>?
> Yes, mortal 
  sin. You've already got way too much dip. Reduce blow or > 
  sumptin'?
>?
>> oh, and another thing. some of the 
  sharps and naturals?
>> in lower half of the bass section feel 
  heavy. the?
>> only thing i can compare it to in my imagination 
  is?
>> having a 3 inch sharp key, with the balance pin 
  being?
>> 1 inch away from the player end of the key, and 
  having?
>> a 10 pound weight sitting on the other end of the 
  key.?
>> now can you imagine how that would feel? and it 
  seems?
>> like the higher i have tried setting the key height 
  to?
>> get a little more dip, the heavier it 
  feels.?
>?
> Well, what is the touchweight? How many 
  leads in bass keys? Is this an > upright or a 
  grand??
>>?
>> daniel 
  carlton?
>>?
>?
>?
> 
  ?


  

  


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