Copyright

[Allen Wright]

Al,

With all due respect, just because the subject doesn't interest you  
doesn't mean it might not fascinate others. Viva la difference!

Perhaps your e-mail program can highlight threads (as mine does), so  
that all the posts on one subject are banded with a certain color?  
This makes it easy to delete entire threads. You might want to  
utilize that in these situations - or if your program doesn't have  
that capability, just hit delete with each one. Takes about a second  
per delete!

Best regards,

Allen Wright, RPT


On Jun 1, 2008, at 6:53 PM, AlliedPianoCraft wrote:

> Enough of this cr_p. We have worn this subject to the ground. Get a  
> life and let's go on to something else!
>
> Al Guecia
>
>
>
> From: Israel Stein
> Sent: Sunday, June 01, 2008 11:27 AM
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
> Subject: Copyright
>
>
>
>> From: paulrevenkojones at aol.com
>>
>> Subject: Re: Copyright
>>
>> Israel and all:
>>
>> Not quite bury-able yet. Both of the statements below are only  
>> partially correct.
>> Telling somebody a piece of copyrighted information is "fair use"  
>> and allowed.
>> Telling somebody a piece of copyrighted information has no test  
>> under the law since there is no restriction on the passing on of  
>> copyrighted information verbally; it is, of course, simply rude,  
>> if not unethical not to cite the source. Legally, one could stand  
>> in front of a crowd and read the entire Pierce Atlas out loud  
>> without any bar (other than utter boredom).
>> Posting copyrighted information on a public e-mail list  
>> constitutes "publication" - whether for profit or not, it's  
>> irrelevant. (You can't publish it i n your church newsletter  
>> either.)  Publication of copyrighted information is a violation of  
>> the copyright.
>> Fair use applies almost exclusively to published written (not  
>> pictorial) material. One may "fairly use" without royalty or  
>> strict permission small (legally defined and tested) proportions  
>> of copyrighted material in other publications as long as it is  
>> properly cited. I spent several years in college text book  
>> publishing where this is a major issue; as a courtesy we always  
>> asked first no matter what. If you, for example, wished to say in  
>> your church newsletter that the Knabe in the sanctuary was built  
>> in 1915 according to the latest edition of Pierce, that is  
>> perfectly acceptable. You could not photocopy the relevant page in  
>> the Atlas and reproduce it in your church bulletin, however. One  
>> might also copy a very small portion of the Pierce Atlas to  
>> demonstrate in a publication how it is organized, say for  
>> pedagogical purposes, e.g. by year of manufacture and serial!  
>> number sequence. Only the most litigious and persnickety lawyer  
>> would pursue this as an infringement, and would probably be lose  
>> as long as the portion and proportion cited is minute (legally  
>> defined).
>
> Ah, yes. See, Paul, the Fair Use exception to copyright law exists  
> very much for the purpose of facilitating educational endeavors -  
> which  textbook publication definitely is. The exception does not  
> exist for strictly commercial activities - such as providing  
> information to one's clients or otherwise engaging in non- 
> educational profit-making activity without having purchased the  
> copyrighted "work", which is precisely the case here by the  
> questioner's own admission.
>
> Whether or not the information in Pierce is copyrighted would, of  
> course, be separate question. David Boyce is correct regarding US  
> law. Due to a court decision it is currently not protected by  
> copyright in the US. But in most of the rest of the world it is.  
> And since this list circulates internationally, this would likely  
> be a violation of British or Australian law - which might just have  
> jurisdiction due to the circulation of the list. And there is  
> legislation pending in the US to negate this court decision and  
> restore copyright protection to the data to collections such as  
> Pierce (and telephone books and other such compilations). So this  
> practice of providing Pierce data over this list to persons who  
> then want to use it in profit-making activity that is not  
> educational in nature is still problematic on several levels - if  
> not currently illegal in the US.
>
> (My apologies for my other quite messy reply)
>
> Israel Stein

Allen Wright
London, UK

http://www.broadjam.com/akwright




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