Wives tales ... violin tuning

Randy Chastain Randy_Chastain at sbcglobal.net
Tue Jul 1 18:50:39 MDT 2008


Take this off list. Quit.FIne. This kind of behavior doesn't belong  
here.
Randy

On Jul 1, 2008, at 5:07 PM, Matthew Todd wrote:

> Hey Alicia,
>
> I mentioned Jesus Christ, because He was the only One who was  
> perfect.  Hence my statement, "besides Jesus Christ".  Try not to be  
> so defensive here.  You are very testy, as others on the list have  
> agreed with me.
>
> And please, quit "egging on" this subject.  It has gotten you (us)  
> no where.  My apologizes to the list for this.
>
> And what does "u cal flatten the A" mean?
>
> Please e-mail me privately from now on and we can "talk" there.
>
> Matthew
>
> A E <eve_ane at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> Matt just one more thing... and this is without offence to anyone...  
> You said besides Jesus Christ you have to yet see perfection.. guess  
> what mate, chances are he didnt exist, no one knows or ever will for  
> sure, people thrue out history have twisted SOOOOOO many things,  
> that the reality of things may be lost... So i suggest you think  
> about what YOU say before you point out my view on "perfection"
>
> Well it really doesnt matter now does it, he still calls out the  
> right note.... u cal flatten the  A by a beat or two.... but its  
> still going to be an A... yes?
>
> Alicia
>
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:42:20 -0700
> From: toddpianoworks at att.net
> Subject: RE: Wives tales ... violin tuning
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>
> Alicia,
>
> Perfection is not in the eyes of the beholder, sorry.  You are  
> perfect, or you are not.  Saying "no one is perfect" is safe to say  
> for everyone in this world, including you Alicia.  Knowing what  
> people can and cannot do has nothing to do with this.  People have  
> different talents.  I can operate a skil saw very well, but I still  
> have to use a guide to get a perfectly straight cut.  The most  
> amazing concert pianists practice ALL day.  If they were perfect,  
> there would be no need for them to practice.
>
> You naming the notes as your friends played it is still relative  
> pitch.
>
> As for your friend...telling you how sharp or flat a note within 1  
> to 2 cents is still not perfect.
>
> Matthew
>
> A E <eve_ane at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> I messed around with my friends before who are tied down in musical  
> field, they randomly pressed keys on my piano and 9 out of10 i got  
> it spot on... a few years ago i had a friend (may he rest in peace)  
> who could tell  u exactly how sharp of flat the note was, and get it  
> withing 1-2 cents....
> there is such a thing i think.... it comes with experience, and  
> knowing ur instrument... or in my case probably sheeer dumb luck...!
> U cant speak for everyone in this world Matt, u dont know what  
> people can and can not do..
> as for human perfection... well in that case, perfection is in the  
> eyes of the beholder, and no one else matteres...
>
> Alicia
>
>
> Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:57:58 -0700
> From: toddpianoworks at att.net
> Subject: Re: Wives tales ... violin tuning
> To: pianotech at ptg.org
>
> There is no such thing as PERFECT pitch, only relative pitch.  It  
> someone had perfect pitch, it would mean it would have to be  
> perfect, and besides Jesus Christ, I have yet to see a human that  
> was perfect.  If indeed this customer had perfect pitch, they could  
> be able to tell you that the note was four cents flat.  But because  
> she said the note sounded like a "d", it is relative.
>
> Matthew
>
> Richard Brekne <ricb at pianostemmer.no> wrote:
> Yes... a good sense of relative pitch memory is an interesting thing
> indeed. Its just that it would be best for all concerned if it were  
> kept
> better in perspective... i.e. words like Perfect and Absolute left out
> of it. Severely extreme cases of pitch sensitivity are more a handicap
> then an asset. Fortunately... there are very very few on this planet
> that actually suffer to that degree....and correspondingly few that
> could with any hint of justification fnyss at someone else for erring
> <> pitchwise.
>
> Cheers
> RicB
>
>
> I had a customer a few days ago, whose piano I tuned 2 years ago.
> She played some notes and said how flat they were...the piano in
> general sounded reasonable. I got started and the piano was indeed
> about 4 cents flat and 7 in the treble. When done I asked her if
> she had perfect pitch...wasn't sure. I played a D and she said that
> sounded like a D...pretty cool...
>
> David Ilvedson, RPT
> Pacifica, CA 94044
>
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