Wives tales ... violin tuning

Paul T Williams pwilliams4 at unlnotes.unl.edu
Tue Jul 1 15:18:41 MDT 2008


Take this crap off list if you don't mind....




Matthew Todd <toddpianoworks at att.net> 
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Please Alicia,
 
Cut the idol threats, they don't impress me.  Please move on, sheesh!!
 
 
Matthew

A E <eve_ane at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
To me her playing is perfect and im entitled to it!!! perfection is in 
eyes of beholder...
 
Matt, if u dont cut out responding to my messages with as u say "bait", 
and whatever else ur trying to do, ur going to be made a chump of in this 
list.. just a warning... ive got a sharp tongue and im not afraid to use 
it, so please, im asking u nicely, if u have nothing nice or practical to 
say about what i write, dont write at all!
 
im sure everyone else understood what i mean, and i will not dignify a 
perfon who sends me messages in manner u do with an explanation!
 
Good day


Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2008 07:51:03 -0700
From: toddpianoworks at att.net
Subject: RE: Wives tales ... violin tuning
To: pianotech at ptg.org

No Alicia, can you explain yourself a little better? (lol)
 
Matthew
 
PS  Being perfect to you still doesn't make Ms. Argerich perfect.  Come on 
Alicia, quit taking the bait and move on.

A E <eve_ane at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
We'll agree to disagree Matt, but your geting on my last nerve with your 
responses because some of them, well, you remind me of a  20 year old guy, 
who just sits there and replies justfor the sake of it....
Sorry...
 
 
Perfection IS in eyes of beholder, and heres why..... some people like 
Martha Argerich, some people love her music, some people hate her music, I 
think the way she plays is flawless in every piece ive heard, and as far 
as I'm concerned with music shes perfect.. im the beholder and perfect TO 
ME... and i could care less what anyone else thinks. because i worry about 
ME first.
am i making myself clear at all?
 
Alicia


Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:42:20 -0700
From: toddpianoworks at att.net
Subject: RE: Wives tales ... violin tuning
To: pianotech at ptg.org

Alicia,
 
Perfection is not in the eyes of the beholder, sorry.  You are perfect, or 
you are not.  Saying "no one is perfect" is safe to say for everyone in 
this world, including you Alicia.  Knowing what people can and cannot do 
has nothing to do with this.  People have different talents.  I can 
operate a skil saw very well, but I still have to use a guide to get a 
perfectly straight cut.  The most amazing concert pianists practice ALL 
day.  If they were perfect, there would be no need for them to practice.
 
You naming the notes as your friends played it is still relative pitch.
 
As for your friend...telling you how sharp or flat a note within 1 to 2 
cents is still not perfect.
 
Matthew

A E <eve_ane at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
I messed around with my friends before who are tied down in musical field, 
they randomly pressed keys on my piano and 9 out of10 i got it spot on... 
a few years ago i had a friend (may he rest in peace) who could tell  u 
exactly how sharp of flat the note was, and get it withing 1-2 cents....
there is such a thing i think.... it comes with experience, and knowing ur 
instrument... or in my case probably sheeer dumb luck...! 
U cant speak for everyone in this world Matt, u dont know what people can 
and can not do..
as for human perfection... well in that case, perfection is in the eyes of 
the beholder, and no one else matteres...
 
Alicia


Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 05:57:58 -0700
From: toddpianoworks at att.net
Subject: Re: Wives tales ... violin tuning
To: pianotech at ptg.org

There is no such thing as PERFECT pitch, only relative pitch.  It someone 
had perfect pitch, it would mean it would have to be perfect, and besides 
Jesus Christ, I have yet to see a human that was perfect.  If indeed this 
customer had perfect pitch, they could be able to tell you that the note 
was four cents flat.  But because she said the note sounded like a "d", it 
is relative.
 
Matthew

Richard Brekne <ricb at pianostemmer.no> wrote:
Yes... a good sense of relative pitch memory is an interesting thing 
indeed. Its just that it would be best for all concerned if it were kept 
better in perspective... i.e. words like Perfect and Absolute left out 
of it. Severely extreme cases of pitch sensitivity are more a handicap 
then an asset. Fortunately... there are very very few on this planet 
that actually suffer to that degree....and correspondingly few that 
could with any hint of justification fnyss at someone else for erring 
<> pitchwise.

Cheers
RicB


I had a customer a few days ago, whose piano I tuned 2 years ago. 
She played some notes and said how flat they were...the piano in
general sounded reasonable. I got started and the piano was indeed
about 4 cents flat and 7 in the treble. When done I asked her if
she had perfect pitch...wasn't sure. I played a D and she said that
sounded like a D...pretty cool...

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, CA 94044



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