Ron, and others. I have written several previous posts these past two years on this subject. Indeed the previous thread just a couple weeks back refered this thinking back your way. I suppose I should take it back further and credit Newton, as he was the first who brought my attention to it. Who and what stimulated his thinking way back when I dont know. Since Newton however, I've run into several folks around the globe who have been skeptical about the rise and fall of the soundboard idea. All these inputs eventually got me to thinking about looking at it from a consequences view point. I contacted a couple math folks I know, Sarah, Mark Davidsen, and my friend Alex Galembo for thoughts on using basic geometry to show changes in tension for changes in deflection. Youngs modulus had to be considered, but beyond that it was pretty basic to show the kinds of basics I wanted to show. And I have a good deal of off list correspondance with several other knowledgeble folks on this and several other matters. As you say, up to this point this particular subject has has not seen much in the way of concrete work done on it. A simple math model simply strengthens the thinking on this line so far. It's hardly a conclusive study had has nothing to do with miracles. It does show people are thinking, and physical measurements are no doubt on the way, by more then just myself as well. About the slanted pins thing... I'm not sure at this point I buy it. But I havent thought it through much yet. I would point out though that you evoke the concept of strings being moved up and down the bridge pins by the surface of the bridge. Seems rather at odds with previous statements I've heard from you on the string seating theme. That said I dont see this affecting the speaking length (sideways I suppose you mean) enough do account for more then very marginal affects in long strings. An increased offset angle between the two bridge pins might contribute some, but like I say I havent thought bridge pin caused lateral change through much yet. Ric B Ron N wrote: Since the role in soundboard rise and fall has apparently suddenly and miraculously been discovered to be relatively inconsequential to the process, I expect that shortly after the flurry of rim and plate movement, rotating pin block, rolling bridge, and warping continent theories dies down for lack of rational connection, the observation that string path length changes with strings being moved up and down bridge pins slanted in apposing directions by humidity induced cap dimensional changes will be equally suddenly and miraculously discovered as being a likely candidate, to the edification of - some, maybe. That is, if anyone actually runs some physical tests and thinks about it. Hey, it could happen someday. Ron N
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