The negativity you European guys pick up from us in the States is experience-based and documented; it's not some sour-grapes, personality-deficit-driven or ego-driven thing. David Andersen Hi David. I have no direct experience (recent) basis on which to pass judgment on either claims like this, or those making the claims. So I dont. I do keep my eyes open tho and tho its perhaps not a popular thing to say here, it is a fact that this particular forum is the only one in which I hear this kind of thing very often. And there are even obvious groupings here. Not a criticism, just an observation from one who keeps an open mind. I do hear indications elsewhere that something is amiss with Steinway NY... but then I hear lots of things that go in the opposite direction here. My point is that hem-hawing here gets so TMMOT low guttural that it rivals the British house of Commons at its worst, and least effective I might add. And, like I said earlier not only does it ofte times come off rather badly from a public eye perspective... but it strikes me that its poor tactics as well... that is if one wants to get something done about it. Documentation ? I have not seen any thing here, or very little that adds up to legal documentation. Sorry to say so... but just so. THAT however... WOULD be a better tactics line to take IMHO. If these things are true to the degree some of you say... then ... well... pictures... real documentation... are in order. Otherwise all this by definition ends up being classified as hearsay, which many readers will intuitively pick up on. Bang... there went ones own foot. Another point... I just noticed tacked on to this thread a complaint about the tubular action rails. Clearly, and I mean dead on clearly this is a matter of opinion about what design ideas one likes best. This has nothing to do with the poor quality claims. When that part of the market you are actually trying to reach sees all this put together... and they do...in their way.... well.. you get my drift. In anycase.... another point strikes me as true. IF what you folks are saying is true to the extent it seems claimed here on Pianotech. Then you all neednt worry a bit. No matter that Steinway has achieved a greater market share then any branch of any industry in history.... such quality will sooner or later spell "demise". That of course can mean either a turnaround.... or a dissapearance. With respect Richard Brekne
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