Yesterday I did 4 out of 5 tunings with two mutes, except I tuned the temperament octave with a strip mute and one in the bass (after tuning the unisons in the middle) . It's always amazing how much better a piano sounds this way. Same tuning style, and same octave stretch as with a strip mute, but it's just noticeably clearer and much more musical. I think some of it is that the single mutes (wide ones) are more effective at muting than a strip mute. So you have less junk to filter out. And the "Virgil effect." Like you, I tune the treble with pure to near-pure P12s. To my ear, it's what the piano calls for. In the past, it has taken me about 1.2 - 1.5 hours to tune this way, but with these it was an hour or less (except for a Steinway M that had some falseness). Interesting...not sure why except I spent less time testing in the high treble and more time listening to the single octave. Virgil is right - there's really just one right place for the high treble when you have the lower octaves done right. I also didn't have to correct as many unisons as with a strip mute. JF On 3/2/07, RicB <ricb at pianostemmer.no> wrote: > > I think the "point" is more along the lines of different strokes for > different folks. What you find works best by no means constitutes whats > best for anyone else. I personally find the strip muting method to be > less dependable in terms of hitting and staying on my target. I end up > having to go back and adjust the middle string again anyways. Tuning > unisons as I go yields me better results and I have no problems > whatsoever listening to my tuning as I go. I dont find it easier to > check for <<correct>> (read intended) octave check using a strip... > quite the opposite. > > But thats just me. What works for me is what I should do. My comments > were stimulated by memories of several whom I knew back when I started > in the states whom insisted that if I didnt use a strip mute I would > never be able to tune a piano correctly. A bunch of malarky. I've > taken my share of tests and am quite happy with my results.... Just > tonite I had to do a 440 to 442 pitch change on a 8 month old Hamburg > C... one hour was all I had before sound check. After sound check I had > a couple hours if I needed it. I sat and just nitpicked with my handy > dandy Pocket PC helping me make sure all was where I wanted it. My > aural checks are for a perfect 12th priority in the treble, adjusting as > necessary for clean 4:2:1 double octaves, and I have a 6:3 octave basis > for the base. Tunelab lends itself very nicely as an aid in directly > confirming these relationships. Outside of 5 or 6 notes I could have > left the tuning for the concert... and even then it would have flown > very nicely. > > I'm not boasting here mind you. I've been at this for nigh on 35 years > now... and it strikes me that very much of the "this is the way to do > it" mentality is just ... well wrong. There are many ways of skinning > the proverbial cat. I admire a good job no matter how its done. No > matter at all that I might go about things differently then another guy. > > Cheers > RicB > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/20070302/6eaab0c1/attachment.html
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