Jim DOES usually seem to know what he's talking about, doesn't he? :-D How's he doing, BTW. Avery At 03:17 PM 9/10/2006, you wrote: >We spent six weeks one summer, studying with Jim Coleman at ASU in >Tempe, AZ. Our friend, Antonio, who WAS ALREADY an RPT, went with us. > >After the third week of daily unison tuning, Antonio started >lamenting "I'm afraid I've made a terrible mistake. My business, >wife and son are languishing at home in California, while I am here >tuning unisons! I want to learn how to do a better >temperament!" That week Jim switched him to tuning ocatves. > >In the middle of the fifth week, Antonio started lamenting, "my >wife! my son! my business! and I'm only tuning octaves!" > >On Friday, Jim sent him up to the Steinway D with a printed out >temperament sequence. When Antonio came downstairs, Jim went >upstairs together with him and with the Phoenix chapter master >tuning exam and scored his temperament on what turned out to be the exam piano. > >Antonio achieved a CTE score! He went home the next day. > >In subsequent years he became the tuner for the Sacramento Symphony. > > > > > > > >Diane Hofstetter > > > > >----Original Message Follows---- >From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey at sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: ilvey at sbcglobal.net, Pianotech List <pianotech at ptg.org> >To: pianotech at ptg.org >Subject: Re: In need of some encouragement - another possibility >Date: Sun, 10 Sep 2006 11:18:15 -0700 > >That's we did for the first 3 months at Western Iowa Tech...1 hour a >day of unison tuning... > >David Ilvedson, RPT >Pacifica, CA 94044 > > >----- Original message ---------------------------------------- >From: Avery <avery1 at houston.rr.com> >To: "Pianotech List" <pianotech at ptg.org> >Received: 9/9/2006 11:50:48 PM >Subject: Re: In need of some encouragement - another possibility > > > >Hi Israel, > > >When I had my first "trainee" a few years ago, I had no real clue > >about how to do it. I asked Jim Coleman, Sr. > >for some suggestions and the main one he mentioned was to make them > >tune unisons until they could do it as well > >as I can. THEN start teaching them to tune a temperament! It worked > >pretty well, even though they didn't really > >"enjoy" it! :-D But it paid off! > > >Avery > > > >>Another feature of our training was extensive practice tuning > >>unisons and octaves for a long time, before attempting temperaments. > >>This developed both our sensitivity to beats and our "aural > >>endurance" so that by the time we were working on temperaments, we > >>could actually maintain our acute hearing ability long enough to > >>tune a rudimentary temperament. It takes beginners a long time to > >>tune a temperament - speed comes with practice. If your ear "shuts > >>down" before you can complete your temperament - you suddenly stop > >>hearing those fifths and fourths beats that were so clear before... > >>I suspect that many self-taught beginner tuners can avoid a lot of > >>frustration with temperament tuning if they have the patience to do > >>sufficient unison and octave practice before attempting > >>temperaments. And with ETDs supplying an adequate temperament on > >>which to base octaves, this should be fairly easy.
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