Terry, All the pianos made in Japan have 3 pedals now. It has been that way since the late 70s. According to LaRoy Edwards, there are different specs, not just acclimatizing, for the US bound pianos. I don't know the specifics on those differences. jeannie Jeannie Grassi, RPT Registered Piano Technician Island Piano Service Bainbridge Island, WA 206-842-3721 mailto:jcgrassi at earthlink.net -----Original Message----- From: pianotech-bounces at ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces at ptg.org] On Behalf Of Farrell Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 4:55 PM To: Pianotech List Subject: Re: Black Market Pianos Well, it wouldn't be the first time I was wrong. BUT! I was under the distinct understanding that Yamaha (maybe others - dunno) makes at least two "lines" of pianos that are destined for different continents. I believe the main difference is the two and three pedal thing and the drying of some/many/most wooden components of the pianos. I believe some wood in pianos destined for the North American market is dried to a lower moisture content than pianos destined for the Asian market. Of course, it seems a bit silly to do so to me, but I thought that was the case. Does anyone have any authoritative knowledge on this subject? Terry Farrell ----- Original Message ----- Thats right, although, i wouldnt agree that any japanese manufacturer (or any manufacturer in fact) actually makes different lines of pianos depending on where they are going to be sold. They do however keep a record to where the pianos were originally exported to. This discussion was on the list a few weeks ago. It is their "marketing" attack against their biggest (and winning) competitors: their own brand's used pianos. Regards, Patrick > Tons of this is the archives. It has nothing to do with who is selling a > used piano. It has to do with where the piano was originally sold when it > was new. If the piano was sold in Japan when new, and now, some years > later, > is being resold here in North America, it is considered a grey market > piano. > This is certainly the case with Yamaha pianos. However, is this the case > with Kawai? I had not heard that Kawai makes two different lines of pianos > based on destination market. Anyone know? > > Terry Farrell > > ----- Original Message ----- >> This sounds to me like a "grey market" piano. As I understand it, >> people >> who are who are not authorized dealers buy quantities of used pianos, >> then >> hold a big sale, often at a university. This practice is perfectly >> legal, >> and the pianos are most likely the genuine article. However, since the >> seller is not an authorized dealer, the manufacturer will not honor the >> original warranty, nor will they provide replacement parts when >> necessary. >> I'm told Yamaha is especially strict, which makes sense to me, as they >> must >> protect the legitimate dealers. >> >> --Paul Mulik >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> Can you tell me something about black market pianos? There is a Kawai >> piano for sale by a church who was told it was a black market piano and >> Kawai would not do warranty service on-obviously. I was wondering who >> manufactures them, do they just put a Kawai name on the piano? What kind >> of piano are they? To my knowlege I've never had any dealings with these >> before and am curious about the instruments. >> >> Joy! >> >> Elwood _______________________________________________ Pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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