felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning

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Hi John,
would extra thin temperment strip work in the trebble?  I've tried muting the trebble before, but I didn't have an extra thin temperment strip.  I ordered one from Schaff.  
Marshall

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From: "John Formsma" <john@formsmapiano.com> 

David,
 
Yeah, it was in an upright. Been a long time ago.
 
Have you tried using a strip of action cloth in the treble of verticals? (About 0.090 thick, I think, and cut down the middle.) Pulling the strip out bit by bit surely beats moving mutes around, especially when you get toward the end of the treble where you run out of room for the wire handles. You also don’t have to finagle around the dampers. I save some time that way, as it takes me 1 – 1 ½ minutes to strip the entire piano. I know I spend more than that moving mutes. But it’s whatever works best for you.
 
John



From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of David Ilvedson
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 10:06 PM
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Subject: RE: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning
 
Your tuning too many uprights...;-]   Felt wedges don't fall out of grands...
I do use them in uprights...haven't had any fall out if I can get them between the unisons...but I do have to go to thin rubber mutes in the treble...
I gave up on temp strips years ago...SAT III, my ears and 2 mutes

David Ilvedson, RPT
Pacifica, California






Original message
From: "John Formsma" 
To: Pianotech 
Received: 1/6/2006 7:10:48 PM
Subject: RE: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning
Thanks, Terry.
 
I’ve never used a felt wedge except once when I tried it in the bass. It kept falling out, so I didn’t use it again. I like to strip mute the bass…for speed. Actually, my MO for verticals is to strip the entire piano, but tune unisons as I go, pulling out the felt when moving to the next string set.  It’s quite a bit faster than moving mutes. Grands are sometimes done this way, but the action cloth I use for verticals is not quite thick enough for some grands, so most of the time I use the large rubber wedges (w/o the wire.)  I wouldn’t think the narrow rubber mutes would do that well in a grand, although you can make anything work if you want to. J
 
John Formsma
 
From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Farrell
Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 7:41 AM
To: Pianotech
Subject: Re: felt mutes -- was RE: Working while tuning
 
Whereas I've never tried a large rubber wedge, I have tried the regular rubber mutes in the past that I use on uprights. On grands, I find that the felt mutes are easier to insert, are very stable (stay where you put them), and mute exceptionally well. You can also place them fairly loosely in place and still mute well - I always wondered how jamming those rubber mutes in between strings might be affecting the pitch of a string that was already tuned.
 
They just seem to work better to me.
 
And besides, they don't make that screeching noise that a rubber mute can sometimes make!
 
Terry Farrell
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