Working while tuning

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HI Dave,
I thought about doing that.  Which felts from pinao tech do you mean, =
the wedges, or temp strip?
Marshall
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  From: David Ilvedson=20
  To: pianotech@ptg.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, January 05, 2006 1:53 AM
  Subject: Re: Working while tuning


  Why not just use the temperment strip in the tenor while you practice =
and work on your temperment.   As you extend into the bass and treble =
use your rubber mutes.   Also consider getting some of the felt mutes =
from Pianotek...expensive but so nice.   Also remember to depress the =
sustain pedal before inserting the temp strip.  Otherwise you can tear =
the damper wedges...


  David Ilvedson, RPT
  Pacifica, California






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  From: pianotune05@comcast.net
  To: Pianotech=20
  Received: 1/4/2006 8:43:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Working while tuning


  Hi Bob,
  Thanks for the note.  When you mention that I might miss feedback =
during tuning, what do you mean?  Do you mean feedback from customers, =
the store staff, or the piano's various issues?

  I've thought about trying strip muting again.  The red fel I obtained =
from my Poter course is sometimes a pain to work with, and no Joe, I'm =
not slamming Randy Potter. I'm just stating a fact since this is the =
only temperment felt I have.  I thought about buying that green action =
cloth.  For some reason I have trouble muting in the trebble and getting =
the loops right in the bass because the bi chord unisons are so close =
together, I have trouble knowing which two pare up. The fatness of the =
strings makes it a challange.  Is crackig the unisons a farely new =
method, or is it popular among technicians? =20

  The good thing about tuning at that thrift store was that I could hand =
out business cards to whomever approached me.  I did have one kid =
standing on my briefcase that was lieing on its side.  I kindly told his =
mother that next time I'll have a tool box for him to stand on.  She =
yanked him away like an eagle yanks it's prey from its resting place.  I =
told her in a friendly way to go easy on him, he just wants to learn. =20
  Marshall

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    From: BobDavis88@aol.com=20

    In a message dated 1/4/2006 7:35:25 PM Pacific Standard Time, =
pianotune05@comcast.net writes:
      It's real hard to tune in a thrift store
    Marshall,

    One other possibility: Often pianos wind up in thrift stores because =
they have structural problems that make them untunable, such as a plate =
crack or separating pinblock. Since your experience is limited, you =
might miss feedback during tuning which will make this more obvious when =
you've tuned more.=20

    As far as the time it takes to tune, it takes as long as it takes. =
It isn't a matter for either shame or pride. Quality is what matters, =
although speed is desirable for a number of reasons, including avoiding =
fatigue. Speed comes with experience AND training. While there are =
specific speed skills that more experienced tuners can share with you, =
you also just need mileage.=20

    You mentioned losing time muting. Even if you were fully-sighted, I =
would suggest you learn some strip-muting. Especially on pitch =
adjustments, this will save lots of time and fumbling. You can also do =
things like leaving the tuning lever on the previous pin until you are =
ready to move it.=20

    I don't know if you are a PTG member. It might seem expensive to a =
tuner without much work, but it will be the best investment you can =
make.

    Happy learning,

    Bob Davis
    Stockton, CA 
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