Upgrading.....

pianotune05 pianotune05@comcast.net
Sun, 12 Feb 2006 19:26:04 -0500


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HI John,
I need to practice more with felting I guess.  Using one mute and doing =
the unison thing worked for me but I was tired of jumping all over the =
piano, not literaly, :)  My headache is with the trebble in verticals as =
well.  I tune the right string as I pull the cloth out, then I go back =
and do the left string without anything muted since the right and center =
are already done.  I treid a papis mute, but it won't stay put. In fact, =
I need to take the knee board off my wife's piano to retreive it.  =
Hammers always get in the way.  Grands are a little harder for me to =
mute because I have to lean over the thing and get a back cramp, but I =
like the idea of playing a note to feel the vibration.  I don't bother =
with the bichord or notes with strip mutes.  I just use the left string =
for tuning and the right for the unison.  Once in a while a unison will =
go out on me, but I can correct it pretty quickly. I have a tuning on a =
spinit tomorrow. I hope I can speed this up and get in and out and do a =
qulaity job of course.
Marshall
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  From: John Formsma=20
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  Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 6:27 PM
  Subject: Re: Upgrading.....


  Don,

  I've found it to be the opposite. Strip muting is faster for me, but =
not so much so in grands. It only takes a minute or two to strip mute a =
piano, and that includes getting them from the case. One of the inherent =
problems with a strip is that the muting is sometimes less effective, =
although one can learn to listen around that.

  I find strip muting particularly faster in verticals where getting the =
mute(s) behind the treble damper felts takes a lot of time. The mutes =
are forever in the way of the hammer in that section unless you get them =
below the top of the dampers - out of the hammer's way. The Papps mute =
works all right, but I generally use a strip mute in verticals.

  If using the strip, you can tune unisons as you go, just like with =
rubber mutes. I do it all the time.

  I use action cloth strips. Perhaps a different type felt is more =
difficult. But I don't see how it would make a 20-40 minute difference =
to simply put strips of felt in between strings. Or did I misunderstand =
you?

  John Formsma

  Don wrote:=20
Hi Marshall,

Strip muting the entire piano takes longer than using just two mutes
outside of the temperament area. Even faster than two mutes is a single
"split mute" or "double mute". This will also contribute to stability as
unisons are done "as you go". The total saving in time per tuning =
amounts
to between 20 and 40 minutes.

If one must strip mute--use two strips and alternate between them.

The problem with the gang mute is getting *all* those fingers in the =
right
places--far more problematic than a temperament strip.

At 12:36 PM 2/12/2006 -0500, you wrote:
  HI DOn,
Are those little gang mutes a time waster?  I'm trying to think of ways =
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speed up.  One that works well for me is this. When I"m finished with =
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center strings, I start at the trebble and pull the temp strip out and =
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the right stinrg. Then I either go back up or start at the end and do =
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left string.  I notice after I tune a piano the trebble sounds brilliant =

with a nice ring to it.  I think that's pretty cool  actually starting =
out.
Marshall
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Regards,
Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat

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