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MessageHi Alan,
The Acrosonic I tuned yesterday had a few extra beats hear and there. ;) =
A volunteer at the nursing home said the piano sounded louder when I =
was finished. That made me feel good for sure.
Marshall
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From: Alan Barnard=20
To: Pianotech List=20
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 1:32 PM
Subject: Re: tuning environment
Eh? What's that yer sayin' Sonny? Speak up, will ya!
The sound is there and you are hearing it. The ear training is =
learning to discriminate it from all other sounds. This may sound stupid =
and I don't know if anyone will agree with me, but it almost seems like =
I sort of feel the beats as much as hear them, sometimes.=20
Depending on how large and well scaled that Yamaha is, your slow =
intervals may beat slower than on most pianos you tune. Grab a little =
spinet, tune a center octave and place fourths and fifths within it: =
they'll beat. Also, you also have to train yourself to ignore the 6:4 =
beat in the fifth and it can be quite prominent on some pianos, =
distractingly so.
Alan Barnard
Salem, Missouri
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From: Robert Finley=20
To: pianotech@ptg.org
Sent: 02/04/2006 8:56:44 AM=20
Subject: Re: tuning environment
I am learning to tune aurally, although I use an ETD (Sanderson =
Accutuner III) to check the accuracy of my tuning and to speed things =
up a bit. I find it difficult to hear the beats (particlularly the slow =
beating 4ths and 5ths) even in the quiet environment of my own home on =
my well scaled Yamaha grand piano, because they seem to be so weak. Will =
your ears eventually become more accustomed to hearing beats? I have =
been doing this for months and the beats still sound very feeble, =
although when I move my head around the piano they become slightly more =
perceptible. I can't imagine what it must be like to have to tune a =
piano in the noisy environments that you describe.=20
Robert Finley
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From: Geoff Sykes=20
To: tune4u@earthlink.net ; 'Pianotech List'=20
Sent: Saturday, February 04, 2006 12:51 AM
Subject: RE: tuning environment
I had the opportunity to tune four pianos at NAMM last year. Ever =
try to tune in a very large convention center full of pianos all being =
tuned at the same time? Complete chaos and cacophony would have been =
quieter. Especially when you find yourself working on the same note at =
the same time as one or two other techs in the same room. And you know =
what? It was a fascinating high energy learning experience and I'd =
gladly do it again.=20
-- Geoff Sykes
-- Assoc. Los Angeles
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From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org =
[mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On Behalf Of Alan Barnard
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 6:47 PM
To: Pianotech List
Subject: RE: tuning environment
Stick around awhile and you'll experience some tuning =
environments that'll make noisy nursing homes seem like a nap on the =
beach.
Lawn mowers, vacuums, screeching 2-year-olds, clocks!!!, loud =
air conditioners and furnaces, televisions, and (at Fort Leonard Wood) =
the not-so-distant sound of small arms, tank shells, and the engineers =
blowing up stuff ... kabooM! ... the fun just keeps on coming.
One that was a challenge: Junior high school tuning Hamilton on =
stage in gym/auditorium with concrete floor and cinder block walls, boys =
basketball team shows up and they each grab a ball and start bouncing, =
shooting, shouting, laughing and the SHOES ... sqeak squirk eek scree. I =
couldn't complain because I'd gotten held up and was an hour late when I =
started.
And the number one most obnoxious sound? Someone else tuning =
another piano in the background.=20
Alan Barnard
Salem, Missouri
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From:=20
To: Pianotech List
Sent: 02/03/2006 6:37:02 PM=20
Subject: tuning environment
Hi Everyone,
I know it's not a technical question per sae, but I like =
hearing about other technician's experiences. What has been yoru worst =
tuning environment? Today I tuned a piano at a nursing home, an =
Acrosonic. The people were great, but it always throws me off when =
someone comesup and asks me a question such as, "Have you found that =
lost chord yet." I was making sure my thirds matched up evenly. It was =
great, and I scheduled them for their next tuning already plus one of =
the employees there scheduled me to tune her piano in two weeks. It was =
a great experience, but it's hard to tune with lots of background =
activity. What do you guys do in that situation, besides make the best =
of it.?:) =20
Marshall
ps. It was a great tuning all around however, plus they =
offered me lunch! Awesome chili and corn bread. =20
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From: Susan Kline <skline@peak.org>=20
> At 03:57 PM 2/3/2006 -0800, Horace wrote:=20
> >Actually that has been done a number of times. When I was =
more active in=20
> >institutional work, I used to do it for demonstration =
purposes...it does=20
> >get folks' attention.=20
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> I'm sure it does!=20
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> >Also, I know specifically of one major contemporary venue =
in which this=20
> >was done to the primary concert instrument...no, the =
technician who did it=20
> >is no longer employed there.=20
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> Ready for a different sort of institution, I would guess =
... well, there is=20
> more than one way to tell an employer to "take this job =
and shove it."=20
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