Don't you think as a Grotrian gets some age and the hammers get a little harder, that sound gets a little annoying...braid that baby...or at least try it. I looked at those posts you listed...been awhile since Jim Coleman Sr. has posted...;-[ David I. ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: "Ric Brekne" <ricbrek@broadpark.no> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: 9/26/2005 1:15:32 PM Subject: Grotrian Cymbalese >David I ; >Gotta say I am impressed by your post. I myself agree very much with >your run through of things. Nuf on that. >Obviously this rivets bit has a few people scratching their heads. But >I still have to stand by that as its exactly what it sounds like to me. >But let me clarify. We are not talking about how such a cymbal sounds >when banged hard. Thats hardly what I'd call sizzeling. Nope... its >how the sound of a riveted cymbal sounds as its dying out... that long >simmering echoish sizzzzz... Thats what it sounds like to me. Exactly >what happens if you take your finger nail and lightly tap a riveted >cymbal. >And I agree with you... I dont really want that kind of sound either. So >I would have no problem with braiding off like a Steinway. That said, >"Mr Grotrian" evidently likes his sound as thats the way they build >them. They seem to want as much contribution as is possible to design >into all non speaking lengths. Definantly looking for a different sound >then other makes. >For anyone interested, there was a whole series of posts back and forth >a few years back under the thread Grotrian Cymbalese. >https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/1999-November/054265.html >https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/1999-November/054308.html >https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/1999-November/054355.html >Many good posts were written by lots of folks. >Cheers >RicB >Clearly no Grotrian Steinweg is going to have a sound like a cymbal with rivets. >Ric said sort of like...meaning to me a little bit, kind of like... >If we think about what the Baldwin SD10 sounded like at the high end without any >string felt in the tuning pin area...that is probably what Ric is describing. When Baldwin >started doing that, I'm not sure...But that is not the sound I want on that piano and I will >always get some understring felt in there and/or stringing braid. I wouldn't hesitate to >mute off the bass, tenor section backscale of a Grotrian either. That isn't the kind of >sound I want. How many pianos have that unmuted backscale? If this is Grotrian's >usual method they must have been looking for a different sound. >David I. >PS Hopefully Conrad, you haven't been storing the flamesuits in New Orleans? >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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