Papp's Treble Mute

[John Ross]

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Thanks, Joe.
I see it, I just never thought of how it worked.
I had always been satisfied with the Papp's mute, till the 'blue' ones came out.
John M. Ross
Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Joe And Penny Goss 
  To: Pianotech 
  Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 7:29 PM
  Subject: Re: Papp's Treble Mute


  Hi John,
   Page 33   #204 Treble mute.
  I also modify the tip so that it is a little thinner both ways. A belt sanderworks great. The tip is about 1/4" wide, I trim it to 1/2 of that. And then make the taper of the two tips narrower so that they will fit into the unison better to mute either two outside strings using either the long or short side.
  There is a knack to using the mute quickly.To straddle the outside strings to tune the middle I place both legs between two unisons, put slight pressure on themute so that as you draw it slowly out the short leg pops over the unison to the other side. Slide home and tune the center.
  To help keep the mute in place tuning the center string, place the mute as high as possible on the strings. Next put both feet on the left side of the unison and tune the right string to the center. To tune the right string , straddle the next unison on the left.  Continue in a like pattern until the break.
  Here I usually tune the far right string, center to right, and left to the unison, unless I hear false strings or other noise, then it is what is needed to get a clean sound if possible.
  I do have the mutes made up but do not have them listed on the site.
  Joe Goss RPT
  Mother Goose Tools
  imatunr@srvinet.com
  www.mothergoosetools.com
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: John Ross 
    To: Pianotech 
    Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 3:48 PM
    Subject: Re: Papp's Treble Mute


    Hi Joe,
    What catalogue, is the split rubber mute in, and the number, please?
    John M. Ross
    Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
    jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: Joe And Penny Goss 
      To: Pianotech 
      Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 6:33 PM
      Subject: Re: Papp's Treble Mute


      Hi John, 
      The rubber split mute works on the same idea as the Papp mute.
      Seldom shakes out, but when it does, washing the dust off seems to solve the problem.
      I do however keep the split mute and a wide bass mute tethered together as my aching back tends to complain a lot when I have to get down under the key bed and look for a dislodged mute. <O:((
      Joe Goss RPT
      Mother Goose Tools
      imatunr@srvinet.com
      www.mothergoosetools.com
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: John Ross 
        To: pianotech 
        Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 12:51 PM
        Subject: Papp's Treble Mute


        Am I the only one, having problems with the product supplied over the last few years?
        My original, white plastic one, lasted years.
        I have had 3 of the 'blue' ones. 

        They are too soft, the hinge pins drop out, they are too flexible, and jump out of the strings as you tune, and they wear out too fast. 

        The wearing out, might have something to do with older pianos, and the strings being contaminated ( mild surface corrosion) and being more abrasive. Mind you, the older one lasted longer, same pianos.
        I am thinking, of adapting my old white one, to take new tips that screw on.
        John M. Ross
        Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
        jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca

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