C=256 hz? Heads up? Not bloody likely

Andrew and Rebeca Anderson anrebe@sbcglobal.net
Tue, 18 Oct 2005 17:39:19 -0500


Ah, yes.  Approx 4 cents per hertz at A4.  So a drop to ~430 hertz 
would be approx. 40 cents.  Big difference.

Thanks,
Andrew

At 03:40 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
>Hi,
>
>A432 =~ -32 cents not -10
>
>At 09:21 AM 10/18/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >David,
> >
> >One would have to walk a fine line when disparaging an exciting idea
> >that a customer has latched on to. ;-)  Acknowledging the vagaries of
> >history and that politics are never really "clean" and then moving on
> >to practical impacts would make sense.  One is that a lot of wind
> >instruments need modification for such a pitch.  The other is about
> >ear-training and being able to comfortably perform in the majority of
> >venues.  Etc. ...
> >
> >My question has more to do with piano design.  Say you have a
> >customer who insists on a ~10 cent low tuning.  How does scale design
> >impact this?  Can you get a reasonably resonant piano out of this
> >without re-scaling?
> >
> >Obviously beat rates used for aural tuning would be slower, you would
> >be looking for progression rather than certain rates.  An ETD would
> >probably be the avenue of choice for the "odd" one that comes our way.
> >
> >Any other ideas.
> >
> >I think I can head this one off from becoming a reality on an
> >instrument, or at least turn it into an expensive experiment. :-D
> >
> >Andrew
> >
> >
> >At 08:35 AM 10/18/2005, you wrote:
> >>Andrew -
> >>At least Mr. LaR---che's imprimatur is relatively visible in this
> >>endeavor, as opposed to the unseen hand in many others. I wonder if
> >>you could wade through the Schiller site...no don't stop just at
> >>tuning, run through Mr. LaR---che's economic, scientific, and
> >>political theories as well...and then get back to us.   Reading LaR
> >>can, I suppose, provide hours of speculative amusement, trying to
> >>separate fact from raving.  I think of it as playing at the edge of
> >>a black hole.  With this group as with Scientologists, I remain
> >>relatively paranoid.  It's like the Harry Potter stories.  They
> >>should simply be referred to as "you know who"s.  I would not want
> >>to see any extended discussion of this man's ideas on this list,
> >>public as it is, unless someone with impeccable credentials took the
> >>time to de-mythify the extensive claims.   The truth is, the history
> >>of tuning has always been a struggle, and political, and subjective,
> >>if not arbitrary.
> >>
> >>As far as a response to a request for such tuning, the issues as
> >>they affect structure, tone and stability, should be discussed
> >>totally apart from any connection to these tuning theories.  It
> >>makes no difference what the origination of the request might be.
> >>
> >>David Skolnik
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>At 07:21 AM 10/18/2005 -0500, you wrote:
> >>>Fellow tuners,
> >>>I had this sent me: http://www.schillerinstitute.org/music/revolution.html
> >>>
> >>>We've probably been aware of this for some time.  Question is, has
> >>>anyone been impacted by this, especially in requests for
> >>>historic/"sensible" tunings pitches?
> >>>
> >>>Andrew
> >>
> >>and
> >>>Wouldn't moving a piano 10 hz lower to circa A4=430 hz result in a
> >>>loss of resonant power?  It seems to me that you would have to
> >>>re-scale a piano to the target pitch if you chose to lower it like
> >>>that.  What would be your response to such a request?
> >>>
> >>>Andrew
> >>
> >>
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