Ric, I don't think i am sensitive in any reasonable criticism,either to myself or to my home country.what I was trying to remind you by saying "you have to understand what you are talking about",is what you said about Chinese piano worker is simply untrue.or it won't hurt if you think it was a indirect criticism from me. No matter how knowledgeable you think you are,you may not deny that there are someone who know more than you do about Chinese culture;you may not deny that there are someone who know more than you do about Chinese piano manufactures.I totally agree with what you said" We have to be able to be self critical as well as critical over others." After you criticizing something,especially something you are not totally familiar with,please keep an open mind and be ready to hear different opinions, even criticizes. Being a list member for 8 years,I am TRULY sensitive in any (possible) prejudice and insulting against different cultures and nationalities.I have been wondering what do you mean by"their tofu bellies" while you was talking about Chinese pianos... You ever claimed"The majority of instruments coming out of China, Indonesia, Russia, and Malaysia just plain dont work." do you think it is a proper way for a professional technician to judge piano qualities by nationality? There are at least a few hundreds of piano brands ever made in China,not to mention other brands made in the rest countries,I am wondering how many asian piano brands you ever worked on or even heard of? do you feel confident to claim that the majority of instruments from a certain country "Just don't work"?? Thanks! Baoli DeleteReplyForwardSpamMove... --- Ric Brekne <ricbrek@broadpark.no> wrote: > Baoli > > I understand you are perhaps a bit sensitive in any > comments about > China. Anyone hearing criticisms leveled at their > own home country is > going to have this kind of tendancy. But before you > assume I have no > idea what I am talking about, let us remember first > what I have said and > havnt said. I have said that pianos coming out of > china today by and > large are not up to par, many being sub-standard. I > can not imagine how > things could possibly be otherwise at this stage in > Chinese piano > building history. I have also said that I expect > the Chinese industry > to improve as time goes by. Otherwise I have pointed > out some basic > knowledge about the present state of eastern asian > economies that is > fairly well common knowledge. You can not possibly > deny that a > westerner can not live very handsomely indeed for an > extended period of > time in nearly every eastern asian country for a > months salary in > his/her home town. Nor can anyone possibly deny > labour conditions vary > greatly. Injustice is found everywhere in the world > and it takes on > many faces. Our responsibilities are to try as best > we can to become > aware of them as best we can and try to contribute > to an improvement. > There is nothing wrong in pointing that out, nor > does doing so reflect > any lack of understanding. We simply have to be > able to be self > critical as well as critical over others. Again, I > remind you that I > directed no specific charge at any particular > factory or country aside > from mentioning three asian countries with imerging > piano industries > experiencing entirely predictable difficulties. > > Didnt mean to raise any nationalistic feelings. > > Cheers > RicB > > ---------------- > > Obviously Pianotech is not the best list to talk > about > Chinese or Japanese or whoever... > > But Ric, > > One thing that i think that YOU should be a lot more > conscious about is that you have to understand what > you are talking about! > > Baoli Liu,RPT > > > _______________________________________________ > pianotech list info: > https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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