Who sells the best center pins?

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:59:07 -0700


The jig is only for measuring under the spoon.   A ruler could work but a wood block with capstans under for up and down...fit to just get under spoons.

David I.



----- Original message ----------------------------------------
From: gordon stelter <lclgcnp@yahoo.com>
To: <dave@davispiano.com>, Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 16:00:38 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Who sells the best center pins?




>--- Dave Davis <davistunes@yahoo.com> wrote:

>> What would the jig have looked like? Also, which
>> tool do you prefer for spoon bending? 
>>  
>> Dave Davis, RPT
>> 
>> David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I take it this is 186 cm grand?  Since it has spoons
>> that contact the back of the keys?, I would have
>> made a jig and bent the spoons up a tad.  That seems
>> much easier and you keep the factory damper
>> regulation...;-]
>> 
>> You need to check subtract upweight from downweight
>> and divide by 2 to find if friction is line.  Check
>> some flange pinning...
>> 
>> David I.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> ---------------------------------
>> Original message
>> From: 
>> 
>> To: 
>> 
>> Received: Thu, 28 Jul 2005 10:30:25 EDT
>> Subject: raising damper lift to lighten touch
>> 
>> Far flung friends and fellow techs,
>>  
>> One nice thing about doing occasional store work is
>> that there are lots of guinea pigs to try things out
>> on before I do it in a customer's home.  
>>  
>> Yesterday the manager of one of my store accounts
>> said he had a customer who loved the Seiler 186, but
>> the touch was a tad too heavy for her tastes.  I
>> suggested the least invasive procedure I could think
>> of--raising the point of damper lift.  He said okay.
>>  
>> I regulated the dampers by loosening all the wire
>> block screws and lowering the wires, using the
>> tray(raised to the proper point) as a guide.  I
>> brought the lift point to where the hammer was about
>> 2/3 of the way to the string.  To the touch, it felt
>> like lift was beginning just before letoff.
>>  
>> I fine regulated them by adjusting the capstans. 
>> (still doesn't look quite as good as a Seiler
>> factory job, but it's not bad at all).
>>  
>> Also needing regulation were:
>>  
>> The pedal rod
>> The trap-stop capstan(what DO you call that,
>> anyway?)
>> The damper upstop rail
>> The sostenuto rod
>>  
>> In the end, the touch weight was around 5 grams
>> lighter, possibly a tad more.  It felt quite good,
>> and all of the dampers had plenty of clearance.
>>  
>> Would regulating spoons or capstans be far more
>> difficult or offer other pitfalls?
>>  
>> This was my first experience with  this particular
>> job, and it came out pretty well, but I'd certainly
>> appreciate any suggestions from those of you who
>> have more experience doing this.
>>  
>> Thanks,
>>  
>> Dave (back on the list after being glued to the Tour
>> de France)
>> Stahl
>>  
>> 
>> 
>> 



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