I agree completely. Learn to tune well aurally, pass the PTG test aurally then give yourself a reward of a good ETD and use it along with your aural skills. David Ilvedson ----- Original message ---------------------------------------- From: Ric Brekne <ricbrek@broadpark.no> To: pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Mon, 25 Jul 2005 00:34:59 +0200 Subject: Stretching the Treble >Hi Jon, Susan, David, and others. >Jon... just thought you might find it interesting to hear that a P 12ths >tuning nearly always ends up leaving C8 somewhere between 32 and 36 >cents stretched, which of course means the 3rd partial of the 12th below >is correspondingly offset. >As far as the rest of this discussion is concerned. Let me just say >this. Pretty much all the seasoned tuners on this list understand and >can relate to the need for speed. The quick and dirty, the 45 minute >wonder job... whatever you wish to term it. But very few of these same >would find reason to disencourage any tuner from learning to understand >and master aural skills. And there are very good reasons for this. >An ETD should IMHO definatly be in just about everyones bag of tools >these days... but if you are leaving your ears out of your tuning skills >box.... well you are just putting more buisness in the hands of tuners >what know how to use them. But by all means... too each their own. >Cheers >RicB >Jon Page wrote: >I've been tuning pianners for 30+ years and the last 3 with the >assistance of the Verituner 100. >I have tweaked the style setting to stretch the octaves in a manner >which emulates my >aural tuning style. >I have noticed that C8 is usually stretched to about +36c (less than >what I was setting aurally, >which was too high - broken strings). >Where do others end up? I followed another tuner on a rental D >recently and C8 was +60c, >way too sharp for my taste. >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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