This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hello Terry and Listers The answer to this lies in the meetings of the PTA in the UK. Such = things are discussed. I guess it is a rare occasion otherwise for tuners = to meet each other. I am lucky in this respect working at Glyndebourne = as I have a colleague there and we.... discuss things.... like Tuning = Rates, what to do about that Kawai CA-4 etc. etc. etc. He's a MPTA = though I am not - I get a lot of my info from the List (thanks!) :-) and = from discussions with my colleague. The only time I have ever watched a = tuner in action was when I was asked by a newly qualified tuner from the = Furniture College, London, if I could monitor his tuning and comment. He = used a felt strip and I cringed - yes... cringed.... as he poked the = felt between the strings to lay the bearings. I am very glad ears were = invented :-) Incidentally when he got to the top all h*ll broke loose. = He - had - no - idea... how to get the top strings right - and that was = after a three year course..... How do those postal courses work if = there's no-one to monitor your results? I'm baffled. Yes... baffled. ;-) Regards from a beautiful, hot, sunny day in Sussex where there's a = "Hosepipe Ban!" now in force. Our reservoirs are running low. Michael G.(UK) (baffled) ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Farrell=20 To: Pianotech=20 Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 1:23 PM Subject: Re: Moving from Uprights to Grands "It has always been looked down upon in the profession here if a tuner = still has to use a temperament strip..." What kind of an environment is it where other piano technicians watch = what another piano technician does during a tuning? I don't think any = tech has ever watched me tune a piano, and only once have I watched = someone else tune a piano. Oh, maybe another tech saw me tune years ago when I was doing some = floor tunings at a dealer. Terry Farrell ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Byeway222@aol.com=20 The whole business of strip muting for either the temperament octave = or even into the further reaches of the piano has alway been = controversial here in UK. Probably like Michael I was trained very = traditionally, to discard the strip mute quite early on and rely on = one's ear for laying the temperament with just two wedges. It has = always been looked down upon in the profession here if a tuner still has = to use a temperament strip, almost suggesting that his/her ear is not = reliable enough to do without it. The analogy being a baby's walking = frame I suppose! Because of this early influence I can actually feel = 'ashamed' if I resort to using a strip or rubber gang mute on a = difficult piano. Do i need psychoanalysis? However, I could actually = argue pretty stongly in favour of using them with very small grands and = uprights where inharmonicity is so pronounced that setting an acceptable = temperament can take more than one pass, and using this aid would be = quicker. When this topic comes under discussion over here it is = generally argued that the temperament is not exactly the same when you = return to complete the unisons and that the whole excercise can be more = time consuming. It would be interesting to know what proportion of tuners is 'mute = free' Ric ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/c7/e2/67/4f/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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