Bose Rim was: RE: circle of sound

Piano Forte Supply pianoforte@pianofortesupply.com
Tue, 25 Jan 2005 00:07:11 -0800


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  Hello Dave,

I have no argument with you or the Bösendorfer people.  There is a 
simple misunderstanding as to where the wedges go.  The reps are talking 
about the top edge of the rim.   The wedges go into the TOP of the saw 
kerfs and veneer goes over that.  See photo.

The sides are laminated with K 3 board, as one can vaguely make out in 
the picture.

Best regards,

Jurgen Goering










Dave Mckibben wrote:
I was just at a PTG meeting with Bosendorfer people and they did state 
what Paul C. said below.
The rim is kerf cut so it can be bent to form to the inner rim, then 
filled and glued with wedges.  The wedges are sanded and a veneer is 
laid over the surface.
 
Dave
 
 
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From: Piano Forte Supply <mailto:pianoforte@pianofortesupply.com>
To: pianotech@ptg.org <mailto:pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: 1/24/2005 7:04:34 PM
Subject: RE: circle of sound

The outer rims I saw at the Bösendorfer factory surprised (scared!) me. 

There was the edge grain spruce, as has been described, but it was only 
about 15 mm (5/8") thick.  On the inside and outside, a sheet of K-3 
board was laminated to it!  This is a hard paper press board (think of a 
peg board).  Then, a sheet of formica is glued on to the outside of that 
for  pianos that will be black (sometimes called ebony - not to be 
confused with that exotic, precious wood).  This gives a stable base for 
the polyester.

 I understand most companies use the formica trick, but perhaps the K-3 
board is the secret ingredient to the Bösendorfer sound ???!

Jurgen Goering
www.pianofortesupply.com

>
>You are both correct.
>James has described the inner rim, and Paul has described the outer rim. As
>of a few weeks ago, that is still how they are made!
>
>Jerry Cohen, RPT
>NJ Chapter
>
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>>It is my understanding that the Bosey rim is not laminated spruce but solid
>>spruce edge glued and end glued to gether and then the shape is carved out
>>of that.  That would keep the vibration back to the SB sine there are no
>>plies to soak it up>
>>Jim
>>James Grebe
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>>
>>Bosendorfer released a tech video in the late 1980"s(?), of their
>>manufacturing plant.  It showed the rim being kerf cut so it would bend
>>around the inner rim.  The inside and outside of the rim were veneered.
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>The
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>>kerf cuts were filled with wedges and the edge(s) veneered to match.  I can
>>only assume they still do this today.
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>>Paul C
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