---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment Hi, Alan, At 12:19 PM 2/26/2005, you wrote: <snip> >Bottom line: I think the machine tuner and the aural tuner can produce=20 >equally solid results. But the machine person also needs a pretty good set= =20 >of listening skills to go along with his or her little helper. I couldn't agree more. >Now, about you Neanderthals still using a C fork ... (Just kidding, just= =20 >kidding) (scratch, scratch, yawn yawn...)...Whazzat, y'say?...Oh, yeah...it's still= =20 winter...no thinking allowed.. Cheers! Horace > >Alan R. Barnard >Salem, MO >-----Original Message----- >From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On=20 >Behalf Of antares >Sent: Saturday, February 26, 2005 1:25 PM >To: Pianotech >Subject: Re: Aural tuning- 300 cents flat > > >On 26-feb-05, at 20:34, Fenton Murray wrote: > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>"And, if you tune aurally with=20 >nothing but a 440 fork to relate =3D<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>to, what do you do when you find=20 >yourself way below 440 and the pitch =3D<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>is shiftng as you=20 >tune?"<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>I take this question as rhetorical,=20 >but, with all due respect I believe it shows a lack of understanding of=20 >the skills of one who has tuned aurally for 30 years. To accomplish a=20 >pitch raise aurally there are perhaps 100's of split second decisions made= =20 >on the fly, sort of like a computer, only in that most incredible computer= =20 >of all, the mind.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>"Hop aboard year 2005 and get=20 >yourself a Cybertuner with the =3D<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>great pitch raise=20 >feature.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Counting beats with a piano like=20 >this... is "Neanderthal tuning =3D<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>in the=20 >extreme".<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Hmm, I wish I wouldn't see this kind= =20 >of talk on here. There is more than one way to achieve your goal, we need= =20 >to respect them all, I certainly respect what you're doing and appreciate= =20 >the opportunity for dialog.<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Respectfully,<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Fenton Murray,=20 >RPT<?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > ><?fontfamily><?param Arial><?color><?param=20 >0000,0000,EEEE><?smaller>www.MurraysPianoTuning.com<?/smaller><?/color><?sm= aller>=20 ><?/smaller><?/fontfamily> > > > > >On the other hand, what are we actually taking about? >We are talking about a pitch raise on an older instrument. >If you do a pitch raise on an older instrument with new strings, you can=20 >accomplish this in maybe 15 minutes. >If it is an older instrument, you have to be very careful and make da=20 >choice to what pitch you dare to tune the piano. >The speed of the pitch raise remains the same, the final pitch may be=20 >different. >Pitch raise is pitch raise, and any professional should be able to do this= =20 >certainly within 30 minutes. >The second tuning may take another 30 minutes, and the final tuning may=20 >take you 45 minutes. >So all in all, every professional tuner should be able to do a giant pitch= =20 >raise within 2 hours, and with a convincing result. > >And I mean just aurally, ok? > > >friendly greetings >from >Andr=E9 Oorebeek > >www.concertpianoservice.nl > >"Where music is no harm can be" > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 02/25/2005 > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.5.0 - Release Date: 02/25/2005 ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/4b/92/a5/96/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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