not what I signed up for

[Tom Servinsky]

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Re: not what I signed up forDavid Andersen wrote:
Here's what I know: doing single-mute, aural, whole-tone, open-string =
tuning has exponentially expanded my ear's ability to remember piano =
tone, and made me a better voicer; it's made me a MUCH better unison =
tuner, much more precise.

David...Glad to hear that you are still benefiting from the single mute =
tuning style. I still swear buy it as the most honest check & balanced =
approach to the "whole" tuning.=20
Not that it only (seems) to yield a more true temperament, and not only =
that it forces you to tune a better unison, but most importantly, it =
forces you to listen on a higher plane.
But I have found that I have to live in the real world with huge time =
constraints and circumstances can't do this on every piano. Now I use =
single-mute tuning in the same fashion I approach with a bottle of fine =
red wine....only to be used for the  SPECIAL occasions.  The level of =
satisfaction I get on those special instruments where I can relax and =
enjoy the process brings joy like no other.
I still have the SAT II in the case for some of the grind work I have to =
pump out. And there have been times when I felt that the SAT II tuning =
yielded as good of a tuning as the single-mute tuning. But having the =
opportunity to listen to my work via recording takes I have been =
involved with,  the single-mute tuning runs circles around my best ETD =
tuning.
Tom Servinsky








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  From: David Andersen=20
  To: Pianotech=20
  Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 9:38 PM
  Subject: Re: not what I signed up for


      Andre wrote:

      "OK bud,
      but then, after having tuned aurally for the greater part of my =
life,
      and, having been mauled and aurally sharpened by the Yamaha =
Acadamy, just like you, I have come to the humiliating but also =
enlightening conclusion that my ETD gives me that very same result not =
in two hours time, like at the Academy, but in 45 minutes (or less) =
every time, every day, and especially on every instrument.You know me =
personally, you surely would not suggest that I don't know what I am =
talking about? (Although, I have already learned that in this life, =
anything is possible).

      I will keep thinking, and saying, that nowadays we finally have
      extremely efficient ETD's.To me, an efficient ETD tells me =
personally
      about pitch, nothing else.

      It helps me tuning the strings at the most compromised pitch.
      The making of tone, is a different matter and far more important,
      because most people can not tell the difference whether a 5th is =
almost
      perfect, or not.

      Over and out.
      friendly greetings...."


      My friend----this of course is what makes the world go 'round; I =
have never used a machine, never felt any urge to. Loved to tune from =
the first piano.  Never had any of the angst you describe around =
achieving an "ideal" tuning.  So---I can have big fun, and accomplish a =
tuning I'll put up against anybody's, in between 1 and 1.5 hours; the =
temperament is ideal for that piano; the stretch is ideal for that =
piano.

      "The making of tone, is a different matter and far more important,
      because most people can not tell the difference whether a 5th is =
almost perfect, or not."

      True.  BUT---most artists, most serious players who actually =
LISTEN when they play, can tell the difference when a piano is tuned =
really, really well, and sounds musical and singing in all keys.  I have =
no doubt whatsoever that your tunings sound this way, that they are the =
product of your impeccable craft and love. You will never get any =
argument or pushback from me about using a machine when you are an =
experienced, ear-based, voicing tuner & tech. Whatever makes you happy =
and productive. Here's what I know: doing single-mute, aural, =
whole-tone, open-string tuning has exponentially expanded my ear's =
ability to remember piano tone, and made me a better voicer; it's made =
me a MUCH better unison tuner, much more precise.  The precision I'm =
able to achieve with this method has overflowed into my other skill =
sets---voicing and regulation. I'm so much more precise with both, and =
trust my intuition, my "first thought" much more than I did when I still =
used a strip mute.

      Love this thread, love this work; getting' excited about =
Sacramento...have a great weekend.....

      David Andersen



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