Let's Get This Settled was How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!

carl teplitski koko99@shaw.ca
Thu, 22 Dec 2005 11:06:15 -0600


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Hey Allan  .  .   laughed so loud my wife came into my office to see who 
was in here with me, or whatinell
I was doing, after I read your opening statement, (ain't challingin 
nobody on nuttin ).  My old heart skipped
a couple of beats, and can't get the dumb smile off my face.( Priceless 
humor. Thank you.) Not only that,but
you make alot of sense with your other remarks as well.  Looking to 
reading more about this subject , because
it's one that requires some imagination , to be able to convey to a none 
tech. what actually happens when we
pitch raise.  I use the one re. paint on a plaster wall.  If a plaster 
wall hasn't seen paint for 20 years , the first coat
will probably be sucked into the wall very quickly, so a 2nd. and 
sometimes a 3rd. coat is necssary to finally
reach the correct color. Problem here is that many people can't 
understand that international music has a standard,
and pianos are engineered to sound their best at that pitch. It does 
take some effort on our part to try to educate
the public , and a lot guys get tired of going thru this harangue each 
time they find a piano needing pitch correction,
so they can justify charging for the extra work in going thru a least 
two passes, rather than one.  I know I do.

Carl / Winnipeg











Alan Barnard wrote:

>Terry's post begs the question (and please understand I ain't challingin'
>nobody on nuttin' ... I'm just seeking information and opinions and
>science, here) ...
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>Do a piano really need time to "settle" after ..
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>1. Big pitch change?
>2. Small pitch change?
>3. Moving it across country? (other than environmental acclimation)
>4  Moving it across the room?
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>I have been under the impression--and it may be altogether wacky--that
>every change that is going to occur in the piano occurs immediatly upon
>cranking the pin. I thought someone (Dr. Sanderson, perhaps) tested this
>and proved it.
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>So an adjunct question: Let's say we find a piano 15 cents flat. We pitch
>correct and fine tune and walk out the door with a follow-up appointment
>set for three months. When that day arrives, for those who have set such
>appointments, is the piano any flatter or more sour than it would have been
>if we found it A440 but still came back in three months?
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>Same question, only now the piano was originally 35 cents flat. 60 cents?
>120 cents?
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>Certainly I've restrung pianos and found them pretty sick in a couple of
>months but have always attributed that to new wire stretch, not tension
>settling.
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>Helmet on, raincoat on, rubber duckie in hand, I await your missives, if
>not missiles ...
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>Alan Barnard
>Salem, Missouri
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>>[Original Message]
>>From: pianolover 88 <pianolover88@hotmail.com>
>>To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>>Date: 12/20/2005 6:24:24 PM
>>Subject: Re: How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!
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>>Depending on the amount of PR, ususally more than 12C, I always schedule
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>>"follow-up" tuning in 1-3 months, explaining that after restoring all
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>>loststring tension, the piano now must "settle" and adjust to that added 
>>tension, and it some shifting of will occur. So the follow-up is crucial
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>>building long term stabilty. And that tuning will leave the piano much
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>>stable because tuning pin movement will be much smaller than during the 
>>initial PR and tuning. Again, never a problem. Yes, it does help to have
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>>high confidence level and be able to effectively communicate and impart 
>>information to your client in a clearand concice manner. I am a salesman
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>>well as a technician; that has made the difference between just getting
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>>to making a six figures.
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>>Terry Peterson
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