How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!

[pianolover 88]

<<I suggest they let their ear be the guide.  >>


I schedule the follow-up right then and there. Many of these clients haven't 
tuned thier pianos in TEN years or more...or maybe NEVER! SO I never leave 
it up to them to determine when/if their piano needs tuning. We've ALL heard 
the voice of a first-time client on the phone saying, "it doesn't sound too 
bad", or it's a little off but pretty close". Then you get there and find it 
100 cents flat!
Terry Peterson



----Original Message Follows----
From: Andrew and Rebeca  Anderson <anrebe@sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Subject: RE : How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:03:43 -0600

Agreed, which is why I make piano voicing (as opposed to hammer voicing) an 
integral part of a pitch raise.  I then tell the client that having moved 
the tension that much it is more likely that the piano will need fine tuning 
again in a shorter than usual interval.  I suggest they let their ear be the 
guide.  When invited to do so they do listen critically to the piano (unless 
the pocket-book is thin) and we get to talk about regulation and voicing.

Andrew Anderson

At 06:03 AM 12/21/2005, you wrote:
>I think there is a factor that was not mentioned. For large pitch
>raises, the wire bends at the bridge pins and under the capo will be
>moved toward the tuning pins. These bends will take more time to stretch
>and will make the tuning go out within a few days/weeks/months. The
>soundboard movement will settle faster than these wire bends IMHO.
>
>Marcel Carey, RPT
>Sherbrooke, QC
> >
> >
> > <<Are you suggesting that tuning pin movement is the source
> > of pitch instability after pitch correction?>>
> >
> > Nope. It's the change in TENSION precipitated by the
> > excessive pin movements
> > (during the PR) that cause instability. When large amounts of
> > tension are
> > added,(which can and often is THOUSANDS of pounds!) the piano must
> > distribute this tension; it does not do so immediately, as we know.
> > Similarly, after installing a DC I will always let the piano
> > aclimate for at
> > least two weeks before tuning, as the pitch will almost always drop,
> > sometimes substantially). IF the client is going to play the
> > piano only
> > occasioanlly, I will then schedule the next tuning in 6 months .
> >
> > Terry Peterson
> >
> >
> >
> > ----Original Message Follows----
> > From: Don <pianotuna@yahoo.com>
> > Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Subject: Re: How to explain a pitch adjustment..and!
> > Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:53:44
> >
> > Hi Terry,
> >
> > Are you suggesting that tuning pin movement is the source of
> > pitch instability after pitch correction?
> >
> > At 04:24 PM 12/20/2005 -0800, you wrote:
> >  >Depending on the amount of PR, ususally more than 12C, I
> > always schedule a  >"follow-up" tuning in 1-3 months,
> > explaining that after restoring all that  >loststring
> > tension, the piano now must "settle" and adjust to that added
> >  >tension, and it some shifting of will occur. So the
> > follow-up is crucial
> > in
> >  >building long term stabilty. And that tuning will leave the
> > piano much
> > more
> >  >stable because tuning pin movement will be much smaller
> > than during the  >initial PR and tuning. Again, never a
> > problem.  >  >Terry Peterson
> >
> > Regards,
> > Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
> > Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat
> >
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