false beats from??

[Richard Day]

>From: Greg Newell <gnewell@ameritech.net>
>Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
>To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Subject: Re: false beats from??
>Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:01:31 -0500
>
>Ron and list,
>         If  the problem is loose bridge pins, and I believe that it is, 
>then why not replace with an oversized pin instead of super glue. I've 
>never been quite happy with the lack of control over the application of 
>super glue as it seems to go in places where I didn't want it. Perhaps I'm 
>using the wrong viscosity. We replace individual tuning pins with oversize, 
>why not bridge pins too?
>
>Greg
>
>
>
>At 12:16 PM 12/17/2005, you wrote:
>
>>>Thanks for the update on bridge pins. What is the "real cause" if it is 
>>>not
>>>a loose bridge pin? And would you use CA glue Ron? Or?
>>
>>It's still almost always a loose bridge pin. If it must be addressed, I'll 
>>use CA. For the most part, I work around it. I mention the problem, the 
>>cause, and the most affordable treatment (CA) to the owner, and let them 
>>decide if they want to pay for it. Most don't notice it, or particularly 
>>care if they do (considering that it will cost something to address), so I 
>>do what I can with what I have. I ignore it and tune around it as well as 
>>I can. What I don't do any more, is try to fool myself that I'm fixing 
>>anything by seating strings and bridge pins, since I've come to realize 
>>that I was not correcting the root cause, and was most likely doing 
>>further damage. The fact is that the piano needs something it's not going 
>>to get, and the equivalence of touching up the x-rays to deny the problem 
>>isn't going to do either the doctor, or the patient any good in the long 
>>run.
>>
>>I realize there are impossible situations, like concert and studio work, 
>>where SOMETHING must be done to clean up false beats. A concert instrument 
>>has a very short life at a high performance level anyway, so you do 
>>whatever you have to do to meet the performance requirements at the 
>>expense of longevity, and try to correct the problem more nearly 
>>permanently when the rebuild comes up on the wheel. Meanwhile, I see no 
>>reason to abuse Mrs Jones' piano trying to disguise the symptoms tuning 
>>after tuning while denying the reality. I understand that most of the 
>>technical community disagrees, but that's the way I see it.
>>
>>Ron N
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>Greg Newell
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