Practicing on a not so good piano...my 2 c.

pianolover 88 pianolover88@hotmail.com
Sat, 25 Sep 2004 11:35:44 -0700


The pianos used by the great composers/pianists, from Mozart , Beethoven, 
Chopin, Liszt and many others from long ago, practiced, composed and 
performed on vastly INferior pianos compared to what we have today. It's 
really a matter of making the best of what you have and can afford. Tiger 
Woods could use a set of hand-me-down junky golf clubs, and still beat your 
butt!

Terry Peterson




----Original Message Follows----
From: "Carl Meyer" <cmpiano@comcast.net>
Reply-To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Subject: Re: Practicing on a not so good piano:  was RE: tax deductions?
Date: Fri, 24 Sep 2004 17:15:48 -0700

I disagree. BS in not pure.

Carl Meyer Ptg assoc
Santa Clara, Ca.
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: David Love
   To: 'Pianotech'
   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 4:53 PM
   Subject: Practicing on a not so good piano: was RE: tax deductions?


   I would say that the idea that practicing on a not so great piano makes 
you a better pianist is at least counterintuitive, at most, pure BS.  Much 
of learning and refining piano skills has to do with developing your sense 
of hearing and connecting what your hands do to what your ears hear.  It is 
not, afterall, the same as learning to type.  The poorer the piano, the more 
you learn to not listen, to ignore what you hear and therefore surrender 
control over what you are trying to accomplish musically.  Wondering whether 
the mechanical problems you are encountering in executing a difficult 
passage belong to your fingers or the action can only serve to confuse the 
issue more and force you into some bad habits with respect to relaxation 
that will not serve your technique or tone production at all.   And as far 
as advocating poorer pianos for our adult piano students to improve their 
technique.well that would be counterproductive.  Remember, critical thinking 
is a privilege, not a right.  You have to earn it.



   David Love
   davidlovepianos@comcast.net

   -----Original Message-----
   From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org] On 
Behalf Of Avery Todd
   Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 2:51 PM
   To: Pianotech
   Subject: Re: tax deductions?



   Bull hockey!

   Avery

   At 09:23 PM 9/23/04, you wrote:



   Richard said:

   "I tell them that children and or adults will practice more and can 
get much more from the practice with a good piano."

   That is only good to a certain extent.  After the kid, or adult 
progresses to a certain level, it will be more beneficial to practice on a 
not so great piano.  It can do many great wonders to piano technique.
   Matthew


   Richard Oliver Snelson <rsnelson0984@mchsi.com> wrote:

   That's not what Ryan said, Mr. Hechler. Too bad about your nerve, must be

   the same one you often hit when your past rants about M.S.

   I will do exactly what Ryan said also. Finding a junk spinet or console 
in

   a nice home with an older child or younger taking serious lessons on it 
will

   bring on a discussion with the mother or father. I don't care if they 
ever

   call me back to tune for them. I tell them that children and or adults 
will

   practice more and can get much more from the practice with a good piano. 
I

   have never had anyone get mad at me, they say wow! No one has had the 
nerve

   to be honest with us about the piano. After all someone gave it too us 
and

   we really thought it would be nice to have a better piano for our

   son/daughter to play. Note I didn't say "Grand." And I never 
follow the

   above discussion with the fact that I might h! ave used pianos for sale.

   Play your antique piano all you want Mr. Hechler I'll keep on enjoying my

   grand piano and having the pleasure of going back to my customers house 
when

   they call to say they purchased a better piano.

   Why should Ryan keep his statement to himself? You never follow that 
advice.

   Now do you?

   Richard Oliver Snelson

   ----- Original Message -----

   From: "Hechler Family"

   To: "Pianotech"

   Sent: Thursday, September 23, 2004 3:12 PM

   Subject: Re: tax deductions?



   > Ryan,

   >

   > Boy have you hit a major nerve with me.

   >

   > Based on your comment, everyone should upgrade to a grand. Nearly 99

   > percent of my business is the pianos you mentioned below. If which 
99

   > percent have no space for a grand or don't want a grand. And to top 
things

   > off, I own an antique player piano which is a Story & Clark 
which I feel

   > is a g! ood quality instrument. Finally, I also rebuild antique pump 
organs

   > which are not upgradeable.

   >

   > So please keep your blanket statements to yourself.

   >

   > P.S. I recently acquired a player piano rebuilt job for a Gulbransen

   > piano.

   >

   > Ryan Sowers wrote:

   >

   >

   >

   >> Very frequently I am encouraging people to upgrade their spinet,

   >> consoles, and worn-out uprights. How could I do this in good 
faith if I

   >> don't personally value the instrument enough to warrant owning a 
good

   >> quality one.

   >

   > --

   > Duaine Hechler

   > Piano, Player Piano, Organ, Pump Organ

   > Tuning, Servicing & Rebuilding

   > Associate Member of the Piano Technicians Guild

   > Reed Organ Society Member

   > St. Louis, MO 63034

   > (314) 838-5587

   > dahechler@charter.net

   >

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