You don't get it... you don't seriously think that was a original quote on your part? It comes with page 102 in the Right Winger's handbook. David I. ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: pianolover 88 <pianolover88@hotmail.com> To: <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 20:01:39 -0700 Subject: Re: OT Politicalz ><<Terry, > I truly feel sorry for your gross ignorance and "pie-in-the-sky" >naivety. I >hope you take off your blinders soon and face reality. >David Ilvedson>> >You truly show your obvious lack of creativity when you have to plagerize my >post, then sign your name to it. Sad. >Terry Peterson >----Original Message Follows---- >From: David Ilvedson <ilvey@sbcglobal.net> >Reply-To: ilvey@sbcglobal.net, Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >Subject: Re: OT Politicals >Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 11:16:20 -0700 >Terry, > I truly feel sorry for your gross ignorance and "pie-in-the-sky" >naivety. I >hope you take off your blinders soon and face reality. >David Ilvedson >----- Original message ----------------------------------------> >From: pianolover 88 <pianolover88@hotmail.com> >To: <pianotech@ptg.org> >Received: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 09:55:37 -0700 >Subject: Re: OT Politicals >><<John Kerry is the prototypical American, who would have found >good company >>with our nation's founders. He is the very essence of a patriot. >>Peace, >>Sarah>> >>I truly feel sorry for your gross ignorance and >"pie-in-the-sky" naievity. I >>hope you take off your blinders soon and face reality. >>Peace >>Terry Peterson >>----Original Message Follows---- >>From: &quot;Sarah Fox&quot; >&lt;sarah@graphic-fusion.com&gt; >>Reply-To: Pianotech &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt; >>To: &quot;Pianotech&quot; &lt;pianotech@ptg.org&gt; >>Subject: Re: OT Political >>Date: Fri, 29 Oct 2004 01:44:02 -0400 >>Geez Louise! >>Larry, Conrad, etc.... >>&quot;ANTI-AMERICAN&quot; activities? >>&quot;UNPATRIOTIC?&quot; >>Just what do you think patriotism is? Just what do you think it means >to be >>an American -- a good, loyal American? >>Do you think our country was founded by docile sheep, who mindlessly >>followed the dictates of King George and paid their tea taxes like good >>little subjects? NO! Our country and government (like most countries >and >>governments) was born from a rebellion. Our founders recognized that >their >>government was unjust, despite the fact the &quot;law&quot; said >otherwise. >>This is how our founders explained themselves in a little letter to King >>George, with bold facing added for emphasis: >>&quot;We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are >created >>equal...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of >these >>ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to >>institute new Government... But when a long train of abuses and >usurpations, >>pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them >under >>absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off >such >>Government...&quot; >>Our founders did not look to the law to know what was wrong and right. >>Nobody had to TELL them they were being treated unjustly by Britain. >These >>truths were self-evident. It was therefore the DUTY of these people to >>question unjust laws and policies and to rebel against them. Why was it >>their duty? Very simply, they were morally obligated to correct what >they >>saw as being wrong with their state of affairs and the state of affairs >of >>their fellow colonists. They were morally charged to right what they >>believed deeply to be a wrong. This is what it means to be a patriot -- >to >>love one's land and people enough to take the risk necessary to improve >it. >>Patriotism isn't about loving what your government is doing, whether it >is >>right or wrong. Patriotism isn't about blindly and unquestioningly >>following laws that may or may not be just. These are the qualities of >>sheep, not patriots. >>Patriots are people like Rosa Parks, who refused to sit at the back of >the >>bus, knowing she would probably be arrested for defying authority. >Patriots >>are people like the mayors throughout this land who have defied the >>&quot;Defense&quot; of Marriage Act and have married gay couples >because >>they believed the law to be unjust. Patriots are people like the >>&quot;right to choose&quot; activists and the &quot;right to >life&quot; >>activists, who may be on opposite sides of the issue but both believe >>fervently in their cause. Patriots are the citizen lobbyists who stream >>constantly into Washington to try to change laws they feel are unjust. >>Patriots are the conscientious objectors who refuse to pick up rifles >and >>march off to war, opting instead to go to prison if necessary, because >they >>feel war is wrong. Patriots are the young men and women who enlist in >the >>military, putting their lives on the line in service to their country. >>Patriots are the Peace Corps volunteers, many/most opposed to war, who >often >>put their safety on the line in hostile lands in pursuit of American >ideals >>and for betterment of the world. Patriots are the Habitats for Humanity >>volunteers who put in long, hard hours to elevate the living conditions >of >>the ever-growing ranks of impoverished countrymen. Patriots are the >people >>who run the soup kitchens for their homeless countrymen. >>Patriotism isn't simply waving a flag and mindlessly saying, >&quot;God bless >>America.&quot; Patriotism isn't showing up at the Fourth of July >parades. >>Patriotism isn't voting Republican or Democratic. >>True patriotism is seldom easy, and it almost never comes without >sacrifice. >>Certain things are UNpatriotic: It is UNpatriotic to &quot;vote for >one's >>pocketbook&quot; (i.e. vote out of self interest), without concern >for the >>ramifications for larger society. It is UNpatriotic to break the law >for >>personal gain. It is UNpatriotic to lie, cheat, and steal at a cost to >the >>well-being of one's countrymen. It is UNpatriotic not to vote. It is >>UNpatriotic not to speak out when you feel something is wrong. It is >>UNpatriotic to blindly obey laws you feel are morally wrong. It is >>UNpatriotic to hold a public office and not use that position to fight >like >>hell for the betterment of America. It is UNpatriotic NOT to question >>authority. It is UNpatriotic not to consider the larger implications of >any >>issue. It is UNpatriotic not to think. It is UNpatriotic not to act. >It >>is UNpatriotic to be inert -- a &quot;sheep.&quot; >>It is UNpatriotic to accuse a person of being UNpatriotic or UN-American >for >>doing whatever his heart of hearts -- his deepest conscience -- tells >him is >>the right thing to do. It is UNpatriotic to accuse someone of being >>anti-American, just because he doesn't conform to your point of view. >(How >>DARE you?!) >>John Kerry is anything but unpatriotic or un-American. There's more >patriot >>in that man than we've seen from either major party in a long, long >time! >>That is the thing that most stands out about him. He passionately wants >to >>make this land a better place. What better thing could one say about >the >>man? He's not in it for the money. He's not in it to be ruler of the >>world. He's not in it for the power trip. He's in it because he loves >>America with all his heart. >>John Kerry is the prototypical American, who would have found good >company >>with our nation's founders. He is the very essence of a patriot. >>Peace, >>Sarah >>_________________________________________________________________ >>Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! >>http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ >>_______________________________________________ >>pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives >_________________________________________________________________ >Get ready for school! 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