Metric & American Wire

Avery Todd avery@ev1.net
Mon, 18 Oct 2004 22:52:12 -0500


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List,

Here's some stuff from the archives from several years ago.

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Hi Richard/Newton,
I have wondered about this as well.  R=F6slau (from metric Germany)
comes from the factory marked for the American market labeled in
American sizes, i.e. 16, 161/2, 17, etc.  What I am unsure about is if
they actually draw American size gages or if they simply mark their
metric wire to the closest American equivalent.  Anyone know?

I ordered  R=F6slau gage 16 from APSCO recently and it mic'ed exactly
the same as my metric R=F6slau gage 16 1/2 which I had imported from
Germany to my shop (at more than twice the cost). I am going to
continue my query with more sizes.
Dave Sanderson
Littleton, MA

On Thu, 22 May 1997 23:19:42 -0500 Richard Moody=20
<<mailto:remoody@easnetsd.com>remoody@easnetsd.com>
writes:
 >I am wondering why German wire sold by APSCO is not listed in its
 >metric size. R=F6slau piano wire is listed in sizes 12 - 23 with half
 >sizes the same as Mapes and Diamond Brand.
 >
 >The question is, is # 20-1/2 wire the same or different from
 >manufacturer to manufacturer?
 >
 >Richard the wirey
 >----------
 >> From: Newton Hunt <<mailto:nhunt@jagat.com>nhunt@jagat.com>
 >> To: <mailto:pianotech@byu.edu>pianotech@byu.edu
 >> Subject: Re: Duplex noise ratio
 >> Date: Thursday, May 22, 1997 12:46 PM
 >>
 >> Dave asked about metric wire sizes.  The differences between metric
 >> and American sizes are indeed small in the smaller sizes but become
 >> rather more at the larger sizes.
 >

 >> snip
 >>
 >> I had both metric and American wire at Rutgers and used the metrics on
 >> the Bechstein, Bosendorfer, the Yamahas and the Kawais.  All others
 >> got American wire.
 >>
 >> German wire is available from APSCo and Schaff.
 >>
 >>      Newton


Date: Tue, 27 May 1997 08:03:26 -0400 (EDT)
From: <mailto:pianobiz@juno.com>pianobiz@juno.com (Dave Sanderson)
Subject: American vs Metric wire

Hello all,

I have modified the format only of Newton's data (hopefully not
manipulated). Perhaps someone who buys R=F6slau from APSCO could take a mic
and see which column of numbers their R=F6slau wire matches the best.
Imported R=F6slau from Jahn, of Germany is always marked on the package in
millimeters (.925 mm). The ring of R=F6slau I bought from APSCO recently=
 just
had a gage number (16) on the package, no corresponding diameter in either
inches or millimeters. It matched my imported 16 1/2 exactly, in other
words, it mic'ed at .950 mm.

David Sanderson
Littleton, MA
<mailto:pianobiz@juno.com>pianobiz@juno.com
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           American Wire      Metric wire
Gage    .001"      mm        .001"    mm

    12   .029"    .737mm     .0285"   .725mm
  12.5   .030"    .762       .0295    .750
    13   .031"    .787       .0305    .775
  13.5   .032"    .813       .0315    .800
    14   .033"    .838       .0325    .825
  14.5   .034"    .864       .0335    .850
    15   .035"    .889       .0344    .875
  15.5   .036"    .914       .0354    .900
    16   .037"    .940       .0364    .925
  16.5   .038"    .965       .0374    .950
    17   .039"    .991       .0384    .975
  17.5   .040"   1.016       .0394   1.000
    18   .041"   1.041       .0404   1.025
  18.5   .042"   1.063       .0413   1.050
    19   .043"   1.092       .0423   1.075
  19.5   .044"   1.118       .0433   1.100
    20   .045"   1.143       .0443   1.125
  20.5   .046"               .0453   1.150
    21   .047"   1.194       .0463   1.175
  21.5   .048"               .0472   1.200
    22   .049"   1.245       .0482   1.225
    23   .050"   1.295       .0512   1.300
  23.5                       .0531   1.350
    24   .053"   1.346       .0551   1.400
  24.5                       .0571   1.450
    25   .055"   1.397       .0591   1.500
    26                       .0630   1.600


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