Setting Rates

[Farrell]

See, this is an example of exactly what I mean. Doug indicates he is new to
the business, but clearly his attitude suggest that he is not now, nor is
likely to ever be, a "tooner"!  PTG offers a plethora of educational
opportunities for the budding and experienced piano technician alike.

I was a member of the National Arborist Association back when I was a
forester. I was a member of the National Ground Water Association back when
I was a hydrogeologist.  IMHO, the educational opportunities and open
technical sharing that goes on around the PTG greatly surpasses anything I
ever experienced with these other two professional organizations.

I know there are all sorts of personality and political issues that swirl
around PTG (like any other organization - believe me!), and I have already
been the target of some local, ahem, let's just say "issues", but for me
anyway, all that pales when one considers the benefits of PTG. I'm lovin'
it!

Nuff said!

Terry Farrell

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Piano Tuner" <pianotuner@frontiernet.net>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 2:08 PM
Subject: Spam Alert: Re: Setting Rates


> I might have never introduced myself, but I am one of the new piano
tuner's
> who
> recently joined the PTG so that I can learn all that I can. I recently
tuned
> a piano
> for somebody and they were very concerned that I didn't have a real job.
LOL
>
> Piano tuner from Rochester, NY.
> Doug Renz
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Farrell" <mfarrel2@tampabay.rr.com>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:21 PM
> Subject: Re: Setting Rates
>
>
> >A point well taken, but by my comments have nothing whatsoever to do with
> > whether one is a beginner or been working on pianos a lifetime. Rather I
> > am
> > addressing a mind set that has no interest in professional development.
I
> > think such an attitude is a key ingredient for attaining the status of
> > "tooner". I think those that have no interest in professional
development
> > would not have much of an interest in PTG.
> >
> > Terry Farrell
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Dean May" <deanmay@pianorebuilders.com>
> > To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> > Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 1:10 PM
> > Subject: Spam Alert: RE: Setting Rates
> >
> >
> >> Terry, and others,
> >>
> >> Please be careful when making disparaging remarks against "tooners." It
> >> seems to me that these are the very people that the PTG wants to draw
in
> > for
> >> professional development. We need to be intentional about creating an
> >> environment that makes beginners feel welcome. I remember when first
> >> starting out I was super intimidated whenever I was around people that
> >> had
> >> been in the business awhile. I was painfully and acutely aware of my
> >> shortcomings and lack of knowledge/experience. I don't have my RPT yet
> >> probably for that very reason: I felt like an "outsider" any time I
went
> > to
> >> a PTG seminar.
> >>
> >> The recent seminar hosted by my home chapter, Indy 440, was very
> > different.
> >> I felt very encouraged by the classes and strongly motivated to pursue
> >> getting tested. The classes were excellent. Very well done. Many thanks
> >> to
> >> all for their hard work.
> >>
> >> Dean
> >> Dean May             cell 812.239.3359
> >> PianoRebuilders.com   812.235.5272
> >> Terre Haute IN  47802
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: pianotech-bounces@ptg.org [mailto:pianotech-bounces@ptg.org]On
> > Behalf
> >> Of Farrell
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:02 AM
> >> To: Pianotech
> >> Subject: Re: Setting Rates
> >>
> >> Yes, and that is why one can observe a pretty fair range of "tuning"
> >> fees.
> >> Professional, well trained, piano technicians will charge fees on a par
> > with
> >> other professionals. Tooners that get a couple lessons or read a book
and
> >> then toon part time or whatever are the ones that offer $45 toonings -
> >> and
> >> hope they don't break a string - and look at you cock-eye when you say
> >> "pitch raise - "what's that?", etc., etc.
> >>
> >> Terry Farrell
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "David Ilvedson" <ilvey@sbcglobal.net>
> >> To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2004 11:48 AM
> >> Subject: Re: Setting Rates
> >>
> >>
> >> > Of course not just anyone can call themselves a plumber.   I believe
it
> > is
> >> a licensed skill with several years of apprenticeship under a master
> >> plumber?   Anyone can put a shingle and call themselves a piano tuner.
> >> I've got to think there is a difference....oh, boy, have I opened a can
> >> of
> >> worms...;-]
> >> >
> >> > David Ilvedson, RPT
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > ----- Original message ---------------------------------------->
> >> > From: Don <pianotuna@accesscomm.ca>
> >> > To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
> >> > Received: Thu, 14 Oct 2004 08:19:16
> >> > Subject: Re: Setting Rates
> >> >
> >> > >Hi Matthew,
> >> >
> >> > >Our lovely fellow servicemen called plumbers charge $137.00
(Canadian)
> >> for
> >> > >a "visit". Should I charge less? I think not!
> >> >
> >> > >At 07:12 AM 14/10/2004 -0700, you wrote:
> >> > >>I was just curious.      And if you go to a clients home and all
they
> >> want
> >> > >>you to do is evaluate the piano, which can take only about half an
> >> hour...
> >> > >> Just wondering what everyone has to say.
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Thanks!
> >> > >>
> >> > >>Matthew Todd
> >> > >>Todd Piano Works
> >> > >>Piano Tuner/Technician
> >> > >>Tuning - Repairing -
> >> > >>Regulating__________________________________________________
> >> > >>Do You Yahoo!?
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> >> > >>http://mail.yahoo.com
> >> >
> >> > >Regards,
> >> > >Don Rose, B.Mus., A.M.U.S., A.MUS., R.P.T.
> >> > >Non calor sed umor est qui nobis incommodat
> >> >
> >> > >mailto:pianotuna@accesscomm.ca http://us.geocities.com/drpt1948/
> >> >
> >> > >3004 Grant Rd.
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