"Whole tone" or not you have to choose your poison. It's all a compromise... There isn't some "natural" place where everything lines up with the planets. I learned bass tuning as just plain old octave tuning and listening to the lowest sound and making it move as little as possible...beats (I think of beats as movement)...checking this with as even as possible progressing fast beating tests. State of the art for its time...;-] David I. ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: Bec and John <bjsilva001@comcast.net> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Wed, 13 Oct 2004 17:17:16 -0400 Subject: Re: tuning lower notes >Hi, >I have enjoyed reading everyone's response on this matter, but I just >wanted to say I particularly appreciate the response from David >Anderson and Ron Koval. I have been reading so many posts on this list >about various tuning methods deliberately based on partials and I have >never even consciously thought about them - I just tune what I think >sounds good (overly-simplified description) :), or perhaps, the "whole >tone" as it was put. >So it's nice to hear from others who tune in what I would say a more >natural way. Though not to dismiss my genuine interest in hearing other >people's tuning methods. >- John >> Ahhhh, the whole sound---the "natural note that the player hears"--- >> It's so wacky that tuners say you can't tune this way, or that the only >> "real" way to tune is to listen to partials, or overtones. Your body is >> capable of integrating and processing the subtle harmonic differences >> from piano to piano and note to note or section to section in a much >> more >> precise and nuanced way than a machine or---flame suit on---than a >> mechanistic, linear process called partial matching. IMO. >> >> Making a piano sing is the goal of every tuner; I can do that much, >> much >> easier listening to the whole tone---the note as the artist and >> listener >> hear it. >> >> Best, >> >> David Andersen >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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