---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment D.L. I'm glad your having success Frankly My experience is just the opposite. Very difficult to get the sound I wanted especially the twenties sound in the top 3 octaves. I dunno maybe I was just unlucky enough to get several bum sets over the years when I've tried them, But whenever I feel the kind of resistance of sticking one needle into the hammer felt of any brand hammer in octave 5-6-7 I know its' going to be a long day & probably won't get the sweet sound I'm after. Perhaps something's different now but I've only heard 1 set of Renners voiced to my liking & it was on one of Dave Andersens stwy piano restorations. Admittedly It was a beautiful sound that didn't grate my ears as they usually have done but then Daves a very skilled voicer. It's probably just me & my preference for a different kind of sound & Ronsen hammers usually do that with out all the acupuncture or heavy solutions. IMHO this hammer is as close to the twenties Stwy & other type hammers as I've experienced. Too each there own & viva la difference Dale Where did anyone get the idea that "Most Americans do not like these (Renner) hammers"? I think the only thing anyone does not like about Renners is their cost. Every one of the finest technicians I have known used Renners. I have used them for over ten years. I do not find them to be too hard. If one piano sounds too loud they may easily be voiced down. I prefer the old style sound from pianos I restore from the teens and twenties. The new Yamaha or even new Steinway sound sets my teeth on edge like fingernails on the blackboard. Renners are exactly what I am looking for. I have only had one or two in those years of Renner hammers that were in need of voicing down. What I like about them is I don't have to voice them up, but only need to even them out. I have many happy customers who agree with me and they are some of the finest musicians anywhere. If you want stone hard hammers, check out imadegawa or other cheaper Asian hammers. I had one customer who called me up a month after getting his piano back from my competition. He was literally in tears. The piano had no character in its tone and was excruciatingly LOUD. It could not even play soft if you tried. He had asked for Renner and was told " You will love it when I get done" I replaced those brand new rock hammers with Renners and he then loved it. Another customer spent $17,000. for a restoration of his Mason Hamlin and when he requested Renner hammers was charged an extra $2,500.00 for them. When he got the piano back it had cheap Asian hammers on it that were like Rocks. The lawsuit he won but I doubt he will get anything from the so-called piano technician in Broken Arrow OK since the guy declared bankruptcy. He is still doing university piano sales, however. I am VERY pleased with Renner hammers. I would only change if I could find the hammer exactly like they make but for substantially less money. (Like that will happen.) D.L. Bullock _www.thepianoworld.com_ (http://www.thepianoworld.com/) ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/b2/88/63/a1/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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