Steinway D questions

David Ilvedson ilvey@sbcglobal.net
Fri, 12 Nov 2004 10:03:13 -0800


I like the clockwise tip...I'll give a try.   What does the tool look like?   I'm using Hart's tool, which I like.   I'm trying to visualize "catch the little hook etc."   Where are you in the picture?  Near the keys?   Above the repetition?   

David I.



----- Original message ---------------------------------------->
From: Stéphane Collin <collin.s@skynet.be>
To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org>
Received: Fri, 12 Nov 2004 18:13:54 +0100
Subject: Re: Steinway D questions

>Hi Kurt.

>On the Brussels seminar, André tought us the very best way to regulate those 
>butterfly springs.
>With the dedicated tool, if the spring is too tight, just push from above 
>the upper part of the spring way down.  If too weak, then, catch the little 
>hook on the upper part of the spring, give the tool a little clockwise turn 
>and pull it a little to you.  The idea is to never give a kink to any of the 
>two branches of the spring, but to work on the coil rather.
>When adapting this method to my real life, I found most efficient to roughly 
>weaken the spring just too much, and then to get it back precisely where I 
>want it by the pulling and turning movement.  Works great.  Just forget the 
>finger bend and massage method.

>Best regards

>Stéphane Collin






>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "Kurt" <KurtGearheart@comcast.net>
>To: <pianotech@ptg.org>
>Sent: Friday, November 12, 2004 5:34 PM
>Subject: Steinway D questions


>> Hi List,
>>
>> Just (nearly) finished regulating a Steinway D 9', used ONLY for concert 
>> work in a hall.
>>
>> Two problems/questions.
>>
>> 1. What is the most efficient way to adjust these #$%^%$#^@^ repetition 
>> springs? Is there a special tool, (other than the custom made piano wire 
>> hook tool I've made), or technique, to accurately and simply adjust these 
>> ^%#^$#^ things? The springs are uniformly far too strong and need to be 
>> weakened a LOT. Rep springs are definitely my least favorite part of 
>> regulating. I can do this with my custom tool, but hope there is a faster 
>> more precise approach.
>>
>> 2. Voicing specific "deadish" notes. These are Steinway hammers. They 
>> appear to have been soaked with hardeners, and have very little soft felt 
>> left on top after a minimal shaping I had to do. In addition, a previous 
>> tech overhardened them, then yet ANOTHER tech needled them down to 
>> compensate for the first tech. There are about six notes from the upper 
>> tenor to low high treble that have nearly no sustain but a harsh attack, 
>> insufficient loudness, and seem to have an extremely annoying tonal "hole" 
>> between the fundamental and the highest partials. In other words, one 
>> hears the fundamental which dies quickly, then very high metallic 
>> harmonics, but no to little octave/octave fifth harmonics. Hammers are 
>> fine aligned to strings, let-off is slightly less than 1/16th, notes are 
>> regulated exactly like their neighbors, strings are seated on bridges, 
>> strings have been leveled, and hammers are correctly fitted to strings. 
>> Picking the strings seem to indicate poor response in the strings rather 
>> than a hammer problem, but the repeated work by other techs before me make 
>> me wonder. Slightly moving hammer alignment does nothing. Moving tonally 
>> good adjacent hammers to problem note does very little as well. Could 
>> these be "dead spots" relative to soundboard/bridge responsiveness? Could 
>> the hammers themselves have been "killed"? Suggestions how to get mid 
>> harmonics back in and longer sustain and louder volume greatly 
>> appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>> PS to Joe Garrett: I AM using the company you suggested for the square 
>> grand hammers.
>> ;-)
>>
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