This is a multipart message in MIME format ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment You do the best you can in the situation. I'm in total= agreement. Another reason why I love my ETD. I know, if I= have to, I can tune every string to the ETD and the piano will= sound pretty good. David I. ----- Original message ----------------------------------------> From: antares <antares@euronet.nl> To: Pianotech <pianotech@ptg.org> Received: Wed, 10 Nov 2004 23:18:19 +0100 Subject: Re: "should I stay or should I go?" On the other hand Dave Skolnik, Most of the time we have no choice but to grin and ignore. I used to get incredibly furious, swear at people, stamp my feet= or even walk away from the scene in terrible anger. And you know what? The years went by, and I am still tuning in the same conditions. And you know what? I don't care anymore. I ignore and I grin. Andr=E9 Oorebeek On 10-nov-04, at 22:32, David Skolnik wrote: Quentin - There is no one answer when you are talking about theater, which,= for these purposes, includes concerts. Even if you are dealing= with a regular account, it can take a long time and a lot of= work, to train the people around you, or the people who create= the schedule, before the requirements for tuning become accepted= and anticipated. And then, sometimes, sh_t happens. A= rehearsal goes late, last minute stagecraft, etc. The best= approach, I think, is to be bit anal when making the original= arrangements. Ask the scheduler if there is anything, as in = ANYTHING, else going on during the tuning time. Sometimes the= scheduler and maintenance, or stage crew, don't communicate so= well. It's worth double checking. It is true how amazing it is that people (especially musicians)= don't make the connection between tuning and the need for= silence, which includes shuffling papers, whispering, or= sometimes, breathing, but, on the other hand, why should they= know. There are times when the only course is to ask someone to= desist,,,as politely as possible. At other times, again,= preparing for performance, other people may have jobs that have= to get done. Then it becomes a matter of determining what level= of noise is essential for them to fulfill their= responsibilities, and what part of the usual noise can, in this= case be reasonably suppressed. Regarding the 2 or 3 people chatting vs. 15 making noise,= sometimes the few can be more annoying, to me. A lot of the= time it depends upon the need. The 15 may have no choice but to= carry on, to prepare for a show, while the 2 or 3 could probably= take the conversation somewhere else. I will not hesitate to= enlighten someone for a few offenses: Unnecessary conversation or laughter Singing- especially the note I'm tuning Whistling, ESPECIALLY THE NOTE I'M TUNING Jingling keys on a key ring No noise accepted for a recording session tuning. Otherwise, it's Show Business. David Skolnik At 05:44 PM 11/10/2004 +0100, you wrote: Hi Patrick, This afternoon, I had to tune for a concert in a small hall. I tuned the piano this morning, and had to check it another time= when it was installed. People started installing the stage for the choir (nearly 50= singers I think) just after I began checking everything. Some notes were a little bit out of tune, I had to tune them= correctly. People were trailing the stage "blocks" everywhere and shouting= at each other because they should have finished work sooner and= people wanted to go back home. I asked for silence, everything remained noisy all around me. I decided to... go ;-) If they totally didn't care about my concentration and about what= I was doing, that's because they 'd probably think the piano was= good as it was. and... But don't you think people should realize that making a good= tuning requires good conditions? There is a difference between 2 or 3 people chatting and 15= persons screaming and moving chairs and wood panels all around= you while you're tuning ! I think I would have preferred 2 or 3 people discussing in a= normal way instead of this disturbing noises ! Quentin friendly greetings from Andr=E9 Oorebeek "where Music is, no harm can be" ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/55/74/ec/ae/attachment.htm ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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