wire coming out of beckett

[Joe And Penny Goss]

Ron, So with that logical reasoning, would you not add the double to the
Baldwin?
Joe Goss
imatunr@srvinet.com
www.mothergoosetools.com
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Ross" <jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca>
To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 12:43 PM
Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett


> Hi Ron,
> Previous to your post, I had always thought the extra bend, a real pain,
> when replacing a broken one.
> I had always hated the extra bend on the Baldwins.
> I also found that the extra bend resulted, in more of my blood being
> spilled.
> I will now reinvestigate my previous assumptions.
> When I replace a string, I always indicate on my bill, which string was
> replaced. It is a carry-over from the days when I used to repair
electronic
> organs, if a note went after my repair, it was 'always', the one I had
just
> repaired, that went again. So I had to be able to prove it wasn't.
> On a piano, it is not as bad, because, you have new/shiny, versus old/not
> shiny, in most cases.
>
> John M. Ross
> Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada
> jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ron Nossaman" <rnossaman@cox.net>
> To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org>
> Sent: Monday, May 31, 2004 3:30 PM
> Subject: Re: wire coming out of beckett
>
>
> >
> > >In the situation that you describe, it would be my thought, though not
> > >liking the idea, to let the wire stick through the tuning pin about
1/4"
> > >so that the wire could be bent over ala cheep spinets from the 60s. I
do
> > >not like the double bend as it makes replacing a broken string much
> > >harder. But if the old pin is holding fine why replace it when this
> repair
> > >will let it hold the new string?
> > >
> > >Joe Goss
> >
> > I use that double bend in every string I replace as a field repair.
There
> > are a couple of reasons. One is insuring the becket doesn't pull out
when
> I
> > crank it up to pitch. They don't - ever, no matter what shape the pin is
> > in. Another is that I find it easier to manage the coil during
> > installation, and insure it's tight after. At least as important to me
as
> > any other reason is that it offers an undeniable visual indication of
what
> > string or strings I have replaced over time. This is useful in the long
> run
> > as evidence of overall string condition when we once again talk about
> > rebuilding. When I, and they, can count a dozen obvious string
> replacements
> > without bending over the piano, it makes a point. It is also invaluable
> > when, not if, I get the call saying that string I replaced last week
broke
> > again. I can go out and point to the one I replaced (with the extra
bend),
> > right next to the freshly broken one (without), and leave no doubt that
> > this is a brand new self-contained service call with it's own
accompanying
> > fee. End of discussion. While I have had people argue with me that a
rusty
> > old broken string was the one I installed last time (before I started
> doing
> > the bent over end), I haven't yet run into anyone idiot enough to insist
> > that the little bend on the end of the wire (that I can show them on the
> > string(s) I DID replace), spontaneously evaporated from that dull broken
> > string. There's still time, and I haven't met everyone yet, but so far
so
> good.
> >
> > Ron N
> >
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