---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment On 16-mrt-04, at 20:51, Jean-Jacques Granas wrote: > Hello one and all, > =A0 > Dare I suggest (and perhaps live to regret it) that beats, with all=20 > their imperfections for tuning purposes, are nevertheless a natural=20 > acoustic phenomenon that exists whether we are there to hear it (or=20 > tune the=A0stubborn thing) or not. > Cents on the other hand aren't something you actually hear, are they?=20= > When I tune in the deep base (the last 4-6 unisons, depending on the=20= > piano), I don't listen to beats of course, because otherwise In would=20= > be there all day. I just find the place where the octave or fifth=20 > sound most pleasant, with occasional help from friends in the 3rd=A0=20= > octave, but is what I am hearing 'cents'? > After all, 100 beats to half a tone (or thereabouts) it is only a=20 > scale, like 1000 meters to a kilometer, 12 inches to a foot, or 5,=20 > .... feet (what was it?)=A0 to a mile. > Or am I=A0missing something ? > =A0 > =A0 > Peace-Paz-Paix-Pok=F3j > Jean-Jacques Granas > Warsaw, Poland > Hello Jean-Jaques, Allow me to say something about beats.... and especially in regard to=20 tuning the deep bass : The contra bass and sub-contra bass we can only tune scientifically and=20= precisely with the aid of counting beats. Of course I am talking about ET. In Japan I have, for the first time in my life, learned to tune a bass=20= very but VERY exact with the aid of listening to the beats of an octave=20= and a minor seventh and without an ETD. Counting the beats was essential in making the most perfect aural=20 tuning possible. Listening with musical ears is a VERY great help. but=20= can be misleading when it comes to a more scientific approach. my two beats friendly greetings from Andr=E9 Oorebeek Amsterdam - The Netherlands 0031-20-6237357 0645-492389 0031-75-6226878 www.concertpianoservice.nl www.grandpiano.nl "where music is, no harm can be" ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: text/enriched Size: 2437 bytes Desc: not available Url : https://www.moypiano.com/ptg/pianotech.php/attachments/4a/b7/9a/19/attachment.bin ---------------------- multipart/alternative attachment--
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