Thanks for the clarification, Oh, and Rebeca says Michael is right! ;-) Andrew At 10:49 PM 3/15/2004 +0000, you wrote: > Not to nick pick,but I wanted to correct something in your nameing > of the model of the Kawai you were talking about.KK is not a Kawai model > no..I was puzzled about that fact untill this afternoon when I tuned a > Kawai 506 console.I saw the medallion that is glued to the plate right at > the bass treble break that has two K's in the center.That is not where > you find the model for Kawais.The K's are the initials of the founder of > the company,K.Kawai.Just thought I would clear that up.The model number > is printed near the upper right corner of the plate. Robin Olson > > Yes, well that was why I was kicking myself. A rushed volunteer job was a > > little too rushed. > > > > Andrew > > > > At 06:42 PM 3/14/2004 -0400, you wrote: > > >Hi Andrew, > > > > > >Experience, that is the key to our work. > > > > > >When I tune a piano, I always do a few major chords, with the pedal > > >depressed. That particular problem, would have shown up right away. > > > > > >Doesn't everyone, try the piano after they tune, checking that the pedals > > >work correctly, and adjust them accordingly? I always took that as being > > >part of the tuning. > > > > > >Regards, > > >John M. Ross > > >Windsor, Nova Scotia, Canada > > >jrpiano@win.eastlink.ca > > >----- Original Message ----- > > >From: "Andrew & Rebeca Anderson" <anrebe@zianet.com> > > >To: "Pianotech" <pianotech@ptg.org> > > >Sent: Sunday, March 14, 2004 6:32 PM > > >Subject: Kawai KK Upright problem > > > > > > > > > > I've been volunteer tuning a Kawai KK Upright. (My only volunteer > > > > venue.) I didn't much like it but after a pitch-raise, some voicing up > > > > > around the tenor break, another tuning several months later; it was > > > > starting to come around. What I didn't like was how short the > sustain was > > > > around the midrange of the piano. It was somewhat better than a tuned > > > > brick. I was pondering what voicing methods would bring out > sustain. I > > > > didn't think lacquer was what was needed. It adds attack and that was > > > > already OK. > > > > Later my wife played it to accompany some vocalists and I listened. I > > > > consoled myself that it was nicely in tune and that my stretch that had > > > > seemed a little too aggressive while sitting at the piano sounded great > > >out > > > > in the hall. But it still seemed muffled, especially in the low > > > > treble. It would soar and sound great as soon as it was played in the > > >high > > > > treble. She came back and told me, "There's something wrong with the > > > > damping." Couldn't be that, the dampers moved when the pedal was > pushed > > > > and there was sustain, just not enough. The bass was a little > better but > > > > > not as free as it should be. Free! It had one of those practice mute > > >felt > > > > screens that lowered when the middle pedal was activated. I had > worked on > > > > that a bit to make sure it wasn't interfering but the spring had > seemed a > > > > little weak. During an intermission while several others were > practicing > > > > with her I determined to do something about it. I folded back the lid > > > > figuring I could take loop out of the spring and get that nasty felt > > > > curtain out of the way. > > > > I went up and opened the lid while she was playing. She gave me that, > > > > "There's something wrong with the piano, do something about it." look. > > > > > > > > Being an upright it never occurred to me to stand up and try to look > > > > between the dampers and the strings while standing an the damper > > > > pedal. ;-) I watched the felt curtain and the hammers weren't > catching > > > > it. Something caught my attention and I looked and noticed that even > > >while > > > > > the damper pedal was activated, the played keys would push the dampers > > >back > > > > almost twice as far. More, there was one that was firmly ensconced > on its > > > > strings even when the damper pedal was down. They didn't release > from the > > > > strings evenly, some touched more than others. None of them completely > > > > cleared the strings. huh?...BINGO! > > > > > > > > My wife is rather patient with me...I pulled out the knee panel > while she > > > > was playing and then started turning that wing nut on the > trapwork. The > > > > sound opened right up, It could still use some more voicing but it > is a > > > > different piano now. Moral of the story, when things don't sound > right it > > > > doesn't hurt to waste a little time looking at the dampers. Next > time I > > > > have time to volunteer I'll do a little damper regulating too. > > > > I've kicked myself a few times over that one since last night. What > > > > amuses me is that they had this piano for years now and no-one else > caught > > > > > it. The other regular pianists had been complaining about it too, they > > > > told me afterwards. I had volunteered on the piano because I hated the > > >way > > > > it sounded. > > > > > > > > Another piano a some more experience, > > > > Andrew > > > > Las Cruces, NM > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > > > > > > > > > >_______________________________________________ > > >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > > > > _______________________________________________ > > pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives > >_______________________________________________ >pianotech list info: https://www.moypiano.com/resources/#archives
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